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To: Greg or e who wrote (8350)	7/12/2010 10:40:23 AM
From: average joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

I just want to be clear on your position. Do you think it is ok for people to kill their children and sacrifice their life to God? “Judges chapter 11 contains a story in which a Judge named Jephthah makes a vow to God to sacrifice the first thing that comes out of the door of his house in exchange for God's help with a military battle against the Ammonites. Much to his dismay, his only daughter greeted him upon his triumphant return. Judges 11:39 states that Jephthah kept his vow. The 1st century Jewish historian Flavius Josephus understood this to mean that Jephthah burned his daughter on Yahweh’s altar, whilst pseudo-Philo, late first-century C.E., wrote that Jephthah offered his daughter as a burnt offering because he could find no sage in Israel who would cancel his vow. According to Jewish tradition Jephthah was punished along with the high priest Phinehas, who could have annulled Jephthah’s vow but refused. A modern commentator, Solomon Landers, believes that a plausible alternative is that Jephthah’s vow was most likely modified and that she was not in fact sacrificed, but rather, her fate may have been perpetual virginity or solitary confinement. This is seen by others to be contradicted by scripture which says: "That from year to year the daughters of Israel assemble together, and lament the daughter of Jephte, the Galaadite, for four days"(Judges xi,40) on the basis that people do not mourn for the living.” en.wikipedia.org

To: Greg or e who wrote (8350)	7/13/2010 8:54:03 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 69300

“Let me restate that. You have continually asserted that Pederasty in Greece was a normative practice and because morality is a cultural invention; therefore their Pederasty was of no moral consequence.“ Unfortunately, you have become overly fond of compound sentences to continue your deliberate prevarications and misrepresentations. Disgusting little pig of a man. Pederasty in Greece WAS a normative practice and what I said was I had no objections to “pederasty in ancient Greece” and I gave you two reasons for that which are perfectly sound and proper. I said nothing about the moral consequences of Greek morality. If you wanted to ask me about it in a properly and decently phrased question I could certainly give you my opinion. “you have repeatedly stated that you had no moral objection to someone else being a Pederast TODAY“ You are a skunk-faced liar. You know very well I said repeatedly that I oppose all sexual activity with minors and that the only pederasty I would support the RIGHT to would be between consenting people above the age of consent. In other words (for the fiftieth time), I support the right of an eighteen year old to have homosexual or bisexual activity with (say) a 30 year old (or any other age, provided they are both competent and there is no victimization). Again, I have never offered any support for the activity. NOT ONCE. But I clearly support my “civilized” government in safeguarding the human rights of civilized people. So show me ONE post where I have said anything other than what I have just repeated for the umpteenth time? You bloody bigot liar. You don’t support the Canadian Human Rights Act, and you know it. You are just too gutless to admit that you don’t. Proud of your bigotry and self righteous as all Hell about it but too gutless to make it public. “Babies are dehumanized and then legally killed for convenience.“ What are you--part of a sacrificial cult. Are you claiming that is happening in Canada? Why aren’t you going to the media if you have evidence of something like that?? What is the matter with you?? Jim Jones sacrificed babies and children to commence his religious suicides--and the matter does crop up from time to time with religious sects--but it is surely not something you can attach to the Canadian Human Rights Act? You ridiculous bigot. “You support the legal killing of babies“ You’re right off the deep end, you god damn freak.