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To: Broken_Clock who wrote (260263)	7/12/2010 9:58:40 PM
From: orkrious	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

BC, do you have a link for that?

To: Broken_Clock who wrote (260263)	7/12/2010 10:48:55 PM
From: James Hutton	Respond to of 306849

Doesn't sound like they dug deep enough in the pocketbook to get an audience. Regardless of the truth or persuasiveness of their claims, none of our Solons care unless there's a check attached. Writing a whiney article after the fact won't get it done. "Physicians for a National Health Plan attempted to fight back. It worked with a number of organizations under a coalition called the Leadership Conference for Guaranteed Health Care. The group, which included the National Nurse’s Union and Health Care Now, sought meetings with members of Congress. Flowers and other advocates asked Congress members to include them in committee debates about the health care bill. But when the first debate on the health care reform took place in the Senate Finance Committee, chaired by Sen. Max Baucus, a politician who gets over 80 percent of his campaign contributions from outside his home state of Montana, they were locked out. Baucus invited 41 people to testify. None backed single payer."

To: Broken_Clock who wrote (260263)	7/13/2010 2:12:53 AM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor	Respond to of 306849

Oh yeah, they pussed out big time, just like with Finreg and the Imperial Wars. They really shoulda nominated Edwards, if only he coulda kept it in his pocket......

To: Broken_Clock who wrote (260263)	7/13/2010 10:45:11 AM
From: RetiredNow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

It's the way our system works. Any bill starts out with grand ambitions and is gutted by the opposing party. Financial regulation will be the latest to succumb to politics. It will get passed and signed with much fanfare, even after anything worthwhile about it would have been negotiated away and cut out of the final package long ago. The Dems are idealists with no balls or corrupt politicians who've been purchased and the GOP are corporatists with plenty of cojones who bleed Wall Street green and Big Oil black. There's not hope for any legislation that gets passed to be able to do any good. I have already come to the conclusion that the best scenario for this country is a split, hung, lame duck Congress, with an empathetic Democratic President. The worst case scenario is when both Congress and the Executive branch are controlled by one party, as we saw with Bush Jr and now with Obama. It ends in tears.