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To: MJ who wrote (137441)	7/14/2010 10:38:55 AM
From: teevee	6 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 206089

The name of the mosque says it all Cordoba, the first mosque built in Spain to signify moslem conquest. Should this mosque be built on or nearby ground zero, hopefully Homeland Security will have the walls riddled with listening devices, and the site surrounded with cameras and facial recognition software.

To: MJ who wrote (137441)	7/14/2010 1:03:13 PM
From: LoneClone	16 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 206089

OT: Your fears and indignation have no basis in reality. The groups behind 9/11 are as much an enemy of and danger to Saudi Arabia as they are of the US or Canada. Remember that Islam is riven by factionalism at this point in history. And also, Al Qaeda and the like are no more Islamic than you are; they are just cloaking themselves in a flag of convenience, the way Timothy McVeigh and his like portray themselves as Christians. I suggest you do a little reading on, say, the Aga Khan and the Ismailis to reduce your ignorance about Islam. Not that you guys should be posting about this here in the first place... LC

To: MJ who wrote (137441)	7/14/2010 1:28:31 PM
From: ChanceIs	10 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 206089

>>>What an egregious insult to all Americans and especially to New Yorkers.<<< I am not too close to the Muslim community. I suspect that they get a bad rap. There was an outcry from them on 9/11 eschewing the violence and terror and proclaiming that the terrorists weren't considered Muslims by Muslims. I thought that tasteful and appropriate. I believe in religious freedom and expression. For the longest time in this country, the Mormons were feared and loathed as a conspiratorial "secret society." My brother in law works as a contractor in Casper, Wyoming, a long stone's throw from Morman central in Salt Lake City but close enough. He informs me that if you are Mormon you get paid net 30. If you are anything else, you get paid net 90. Mitt Romney had a little trouble because of his Mormon roots. Having said that, I sense that the Muslims are self protective and aggressive. But so are the Jews, Catholics, Blacks, Irish, etc. But having said yet all of that, there are some things you just don't do, even in a free society where you have every right to do them. One of them is certainly building a mosque at the 9/11 site. Stoooooopid. In your face. Not a high reward/risk strategy. Like building a skinhead resort next to the Auschwitz site. One of those nutcases got thrown in jail the other day for having a Hitler speech ringtone on his cell phone. Outrageous and dispicable, but also way stooooooopid. Having said yet again, yet again all of that, I did take a tour of Wall Street a couple months ago and stood at the vestibule of Trinity Episcopal (just around the corner from the World Trade Center site) at the head of the "Street" and looked all the way down to the East River. The Episcopalians certainly ran that place for a good long while, and had their stamp upon it. JP Morgan was a good Episcopalian and left a high level management religious retreat in Virginia mid-session to quell the panic of 1907. I have no way of knowing, but I don't think Morgan would have liked the mosque, and had the power to do something about it. The Washington Post had a long article back in May stating that if Elena Kagan was appointed to the Supremes, that it would be the first time ever that there were no Protestants on the Court. My how times have changed. It went on to suggest that things have become much more of a meritocracy, and the old "old-boy" network doesn't function so well here anymore. (Being an Episcopalian doesn't help, and might even hurt.) Despite the egalitarian bluster, I think that with a lot of new-boys at the helm, they are eagerly about the business of constructing new, replacement, old-boy networks. Quite the digression I am on.