To: TobagoJack who wrote (64761 ) 7/17/2010 4:37:52 AM From: energyplay Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217592 Re: Foxxconn - thanks for the info. I assume they will end that policy soon. Foxxconn tried to have good policy, and events have turned it into a f**king nightmare. I feel sorry for the Foxxconn manager who did the right thing, only to have it blow up. On the suicide rate : The US population is much older and will have many people at end of life (cancer, other nasty diseases) and some in considerable pain. Another factor is that all the Foxxconn people are able to hold a job and be productive, many of the US suicides are unemployable or crippled in significant ways. So there should be a pretty low suicide rate for Foxxconn. Note that the people from rural area who found work at Foxxconn 1) found work - the kids that had to go home to the farm after NOT finding work who will be hurting. Also, Foxxconn paid well and had some visibility if not prestige. Suicide rate for adolescents in the US is about 8 per 100,000.en.wikipedia.org The other side is what is really going on when you have 100,000 people from 18 to maybe 33 years old jammed into a closed campus for a long time. Social hierarchy games ? Cliques ? Rampant sexual activity ? (I expect that Foxxconn worked hard to keep the place from turning into a Spring Break party world) Human animals that can't make their own choices and move around can find many ways to be nasty to each other. That behavior will develop spontaneously, see the Stanford Prison Experiment. There is way too much suicide among young people, there is something evil going on, in the US and other places. These kids were from Palo Alto High and Gunn High, both good schools with well off parents - Aug 24, 2009 9:37 pm US/Pacific 3rd Caltrain Teen Suicide Spurs Action PALO ALTO (CBS 5 / BCN) Palo Alto Girl Struck, Killed By Caltrain (8/22/2009) Caltrain Urges Caution After Spate Of Fatalities (6/9/2009) Caltrain Kills 2nd Teen From Peninsula School (6/3/2009) Teen Boy Killed By Caltrain; 2nd Death In 2 Days (5/6/2009) Caltrain officials said Monday that the best way to deter teen suicides on Caltrain tracks is to address mental health issues on a community level and tone down news coverage of the deaths of several young people at a Palo Alto crossing since May. Caltrain spokesman Mark Simon said at a news conference in San Carlos Monday morning that the transit agency and its employees are "devastated" by each death, including that of a 13-year-old girl on Friday. The girl was struck and killed around 10:45 p.m. at the East Meadow Drive crossing. On May 5, a 17-year-old boy was struck and killed by a Caltrain at the same crossing. On June 2, a 17-year-old girl was killed there. Both teens were students at Gunn High School and both deaths appeared to be suicides. On June 4, the mother of another Gunn student called Palo Alto police to report that her son was acting strangely and heading for the train tracks. Officers restrained the teen as he headed toward the East Meadow Drive crossing with what police said were suicidal intentions. Administrators at the Palo Alto Unified School District and Gunn High School said they are not commenting on Friday's death, or Caltrain's statements regarding suicide prevention. An assistant to PAUSD Superintendent Kevin Skelly said that administrators are still planning the support and resources they will make available to students when school starts on Tuesday. ******* Sarcastic article about the Gunn High Suicides. Best part is some of the letters form Gunn students which mention the pressure level.blogs.sfweekly.com Here's one - Former Gunn Student says: I laughed out loud after reading the title of this article because it's as insensitive as a holocaust joke. Funny stuff, but I thought SFweekly was a respected and serious news company instead of comically cynical shit like the onion. Oh, and yes. The solution IS obvious: change the motherfucking curriculum so that Gunn isn't so goddamn stressful. When I used to be a student there I slept 4 hours a night on average. Every student taking a substantial course load there at least THINKS about killing themselves at some point. Combine the stressful curriculum with the fact that the schoolwork could eat away at a student's potential social life. Goodbye, teenage childhood. Cutting the Caltrain budget to have fewer trains running isn't going to do shit. That's like trying to put a band-aid on the skin of a dislocated shoulder joint. If a human being is driven to the mental state of wanting to take their own life, they will find a way to do so. F**king retards. Posted On: Monday, Jun. 8 2009 @ 6:15PM Gunn Student says: Dear sir. I believe you are an ill-advised, distasteful son of a whore and should be banned from writing such ugly, mean articles. My sincere apologies that I took even five minutes of my time to read such blatant cynicism and sarcasm. I assure you that upon seeing your name on any future article, I will avoid it like the plague. My firm opinion of you is this: you should die, alone, on the side of a road, in a ditch, knocked there by some lackadaisical high school student that has never felt the pressure of intensive learning, and so chooses to spend their time partying and driving drunk. As a current student at Gunn High School, I have many-a-time felt the pressure that has almost led me to commit suicide myself, and I would like to know that that feeling is not being made light of by self-righteous, demeaning assholes who can't write sympathy into an article regarding the death of two brilliant, lovely, and warm people like JP and Sonia. I hope you die. Sincerely, EA. Posted On: Sunday, Sep. 20 2009 @ 7:36PM