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To: Jerry Olson who wrote (13725)11/7/1997 7:10:00 PM
From: Tom Trader  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 50167
 
Hi OJ-- long time no talk

I can see that you've been talking to your maid again:)

Unlike Mohan--as you know, I tend to be in the bullish camp

All that you have written about about how great this bull market has been is dead-on. What one must not lose sight of however, is that when bear markets come into being, the devastation is beyond belief. Both you and I survived 1987--but look at bear markets in Japan, SE Asia, and the US in 1973-74 and see what can happen. Do you know that in Japan, a full 90% of the people who were invested in mutual funds in 1989, had exited the markets as of this year.

I am not saying that this is where we are today in the US--but it pays to be aware that nothing goes up for ever--whether we are talking stocks, gold, real-estate, etc.

So control your exuberance because if it gets too irrational, AG will control it for you:)

Have a good weekend



To: Jerry Olson who wrote (13725)11/7/1997 8:42:00 PM
From: robnhood  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50167
 
OJ,,,Good Grief,,maybe I'm too cynical,,but IMO, its just not that easy,,,there's got to be a catch,,just has to be.....
rrman



To: Jerry Olson who wrote (13725)11/7/1997 10:46:00 PM
From: Cynic 2005  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 50167
 
OJ, I didn't even trade a single share by 1987. Obviously you are a veteran trader than I am. But, that doesn't disqualify me from disagreeing with your opinion, does it? Perhaps the worst lesson 1987 crash ever taught people is to buy dips, any dips. Sure, in a secular bull trend dips are a correcting mechanism, not a bear trend by itself. But, the markets did not start at the advent of this bull leg in 1982. If you wish to follow history before 1987, there were protracted periods of time in which stocks were universally hated and for a good reason. Each time, you got there soon after an euphoric enthusiasm for stocks, much like the one you have displayed in your note. In 1987 the eventual problem for the big drop was supply and demand (for stocks), magnified by portfolio hedging. 10 years later, now that many more people have exposure to stocks, the same supply and demand equation is heavily weighted towards, supply. [I will post numbers later.] You turn-around and yell SELL, the echo will be "Sell to whom?"

You are telling me that a lot of people have amassed so much wealth even since April of this year that they can afford to burn it. If you want to burn it, why earn it? Before October 17th there were at least 5 swings of 300 points or more on the DOW. I pressume a lot of dip buyers have bought them. Some might have made moeny but I bet many would have lost it due to the unexpected Asian mess. It is very common to make money fast, very fast at the final gasp of the bull. But only a few people can keep it. I hope you are one of them.

BTW, I turned fully bearish in July. Unlike many people think, I am not a perma-bear. I play the bull game too. My biggest (long) winners this year were drug stocks. Specifically, Warner Lambert and BMY. I bought WLA LEAPS when it was in low 80's and sold at ~137! Check out the WLA chart on SI, in case you are wondering!

Good luck.
-Mohan