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To: Road Walker who wrote (577559)	7/23/2010 11:47:05 AM
From: Tenchusatsu	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572729

RW, this is a load of intellectual crap. Genetic predisposition does not absolve anyone of moral responsibility. That gives rise to the excuse, "That's just the way I am. I can't help it." Everyone can help it. Many, many case studies prove it. It's a part of what makes us human. We're not dogs, programmed to do what we're trained or bred to do. Tenchusatsu

To: Road Walker who wrote (577559)	7/28/2010 1:01:23 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 1572729

I agree with Tenchusatsu's response. You may also know, contrary to popular opinion, that current science gives us no more reason to think that determinism is false than that determinism is true. Which is not the same as saying it gives us more reason to think its true than its false. Its more a philosophical issue than a scientific one. Its not something that we can take our scientific knowledge and answer.

To: Road Walker who wrote (577559)	7/28/2010 1:55:46 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572729

"(x) So ultimate, buck-stopping moral responsibility is impossible, because it requires ultimate responsibility for how one is; as noted in (iii)." False. Galen makes his argument around the responsibility for 'what happens', by holding the doer morally responsible for what he does. What is manifest in the world is not under the ultimate control of an individual and he makes that case very well, but that is not where moral responsibility is bound. Example: I can make the intention to listen closely to you, so as to hear exactly what you say and interpret it properly, which is a moral decision. A jet plane might then take off right over our heads, so that I miss much of what you are saying, or you may be intentionally misleading me with the information you deliver, so that my proper interpretation is impossible. I am therefore not ultimately responsible for the act of hearing or interpreting properly. I am ultimately responsible for my choice to listen and my intention to get a proper interpretation. Moral responsibility has to do directly and ultimately with circumstantial choice and intention, not with what happens. Tripping, failing to overcome obstacles, or any influences that are not bound in conscious moral decision making are not elements of moral responsibility. What one does, does not always follow what one intends to do.