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Politics : Manmade Global Warming, A hoax? A Scam? or a Doomsday Cult? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Don Hurst who wrote (1374)	7/30/2010 5:39:34 PM
From: longnshort	2 Recommendations Respond to of 4326

Article on the scam. Global Temperature And Data Distortions Continue By Dr. Tim Ball Thursday, July 29, 2010 canadafreepress.com h/tFUBHO

To: Don Hurst who wrote (1374)	7/30/2010 6:38:16 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 4326

Don.. quit being such a "tool".. You're playing into a "Chicken/Egg" argument, and that article in Science Daily fails to incorporate is only giving you the "chicken" part. They make NO MENTION of iron/silica depleted HNLC (High Nutrient/Low Chlorophyll) regions where oceans temps are very accomodating for Diatomic growth (Diatoms form mineral shells that, once the diatom dies, drag the organic carbon to the ocean depths). Now get this straight.. Phytoplankton CONSUME CO2, whether it's saturated in the oceans, or as carbonic acid. Researchers noticed some time ago that the concentrations of dissolved inorganic carbon, such as carbon dioxide and carbonic acid, often drop at the ocean's surface during spring and summer. They suspected the carbon was being incorporated by phytoplankton during photosynthesis; however, they couldn't make the relevant equations balance, as there were never enough nutrients (like nitrates) in the water to support all of the photosynthesis going on. arstechnica.com Most of the CO2 taken up by the ocean forms carbonic acid in equilibrium with bicarbonate and carbonate ions. Some is consumed in photosynthesis by organisms in the water, and a small proportion of that sinks and leaves the carbon cycle. en.wikipedia.org Is that clear? Carbonic Acid will be broken down by phytoplankton during photosynthesis. Now understand this about plants, which include Phytoplankton. So long as sufficient Sun, Water, and NUTRIENTS (including Iron) is available, they they will continue to consume CO2. This is a natural fact. There can be 1000ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere, but if there's no available water, sun, or nutrients (including Iron to prevent Chlorosis), there will be limited photosynthesis. Now.. phytoplankton have plenty of water, as well as direct sunlight. They also have access in most parts of the ocean to nutrients.. This is CERTAINLY THE CASE in HNLC zones, on which the Iron Fertilization theory has been focused. There should be nothing to prevent phytoplankton growth in these regions and it was a mystery why there were so many "dead zones" when conditions should be so favorable for diatomic growth. That's why Dr. John Martin believed that insufficient Iron, and possibly Silica, were responsible for limited phytoplankton populations in these regions. However, he died before he could carry out experiments on his theory. But OTHERS DID CARRY OUT SUCH EXPERIMENTS AND PROVED IRON FERTILIZATION THEORIES AS SCIENTIFIC FACT!!! en.wikipedia.org disc.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov They've even proven that local CO2 levels decline during one of these Iron Fertilization "events": nature.com The bottom line is that AUGMENTING NATURAL PROCESSES THAT ALREADY EXIST IS THE BEST METHOD FOR DEALING WITH EXCESS CO2. It's little different than people who fertilize and water their lawns in areas where there are insufficient quantities of these elements. Now maybe human release of Fossilized Hydrocarbons have played a role in diminishing micro-nutrients like Iron and Silica, as phytoplankton consumed them. But when our lawns utilize all available Iron, we fertilize them to restore their green chlorophyll. Why would it be any different with ocean phytoplankton? Furthermore, if our soil conservation efforts have PREVENTED NATURE from "blowing" wind-born Iron and Silica into the oceans, don't we have an obligation to replace that Iron? Again.. it's simple science.. Provide plants with all the ideal conditions and nutrients and they will continue to grow. But limit those elements they require, and they will turn brown, have stunted growth, and eventually will die. Now is that simple enough for you to understand? Or are you going to continue trying to deny the REALITY OF BASIC NATURAL PROCESSES? Just try and think rather than be sucked in by all this mumbo-jumbo being spewed by the myopic climate science community. Nature is MUCH MORE COMPLEX and has ALREADY CREATED all the tools necessary to deal with extreme imbalances. It might just need a bit of help. Hawk