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To: stockman_scott who wrote (82424)8/2/2010 3:13:55 AM
From: T L Comiskey1 Recommendation  Respond to of 89467
 
Alan Greenspan:
Extending Bush Tax Cuts Without Paying For Them
Could Be 'Disastrous'
08- 1-10

Former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan said that the push by congressional Republicans to extend the Bush tax cuts without offsetting the costs elsewhere could end up being "disastrous" for the economy.

In an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press," Greenspan expressed his disagreement with the conservative argument that tax cuts essentially pay for themselves by generating revenue and productivity among recipients.

"They do not," said Greenspan.

"I'm very much in favor of tax cuts but not with borrowed money and the problem that we have gotten into in recent years is spending programs with borrowed money, tax cuts with borrowed money," he said. "And at the end of the day that proves disastrous. My view is I don't think we can play subtle policy here."

The comments from the former Fed chief were an elaboration of a position he outlined in an interview earlier in the week. Speaking with PBS' Judy Woodruff, Greenspan expressed his opposition to passing legislation that would hold tax rates steady (under law the tax cuts Bush passed ten years ago are going to expire, thereby bringing rates back to Clinton-era levels). President Obama has pledged to continue the tax breaks for those individuals making under $200,000 and those families earning less than $250,000.

But Republicans want the entire package kept in place. Even so, they have declined to say how they would pay for it, saying, in part, that keeping the Bush tax cuts in place will pay for itself.

In addition to throwing cold water on that theory, Greenspan also weighed in on broader economic issues and trends. The former Fed Chairman relayed some sobering economic predictions, saying he expected the nation's unemployment rate to remain at its current level, mainly because there were few tools left to change it.

"I see it [as] we just stay where we are," he said. "There is a gradual increase in employment but not enough to reduce the level of unemployment ...There is nothing out there that I can see which will alter the trend or the level of unemployment in this country."
huffingtonpost.com



To: stockman_scott who wrote (82424)8/2/2010 9:42:33 AM
From: T L Comiskey  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
La. fishermen wrinkle their noses at 'smell tests'

By JASON DEAREN,
Associated Press Writer –

ON THE GULF OF MEXICO – Even the people who make their living off the seafood-rich waters of Louisiana's St. Bernard Parish have a hard time swallowing the government's assurances that fish harvested in the shallow, muddy waters just offshore must be safe to eat because they don't smell too bad.
Fresh splotches of chocolate-colored crude, probably globules broken apart by toxic chemical dispersants sprayed by BP with government approval, still wash up almost daily on protective boom and in marshes in reopened fishing grounds east of the Mississippi River.
When shrimp season opens in a couple of weeks and fisherman Rusty Graybill drags his nets across the mucky bottom, he worries that he'll also collect traces of oil and dispersants — and that even if his catch doesn't smell, buyers and consumers will turn up their noses.
"If I put fish in a barrel of water and poured oil and Dove detergent over that, and mixed it up, would you eat that fish?" asked Graybill, a 28-year-old commercial oyster, blue crab and shrimp angler who grew up fishing the marshes of St. Bernard. "I wouldn't feed it to you or my family.



To: stockman_scott who wrote (82424)8/2/2010 10:23:46 AM
From: tejek2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Obama So Far: Good Job!

By Richard Reeves

LOS ANGELES -- This is about what I think, expressed cleverly by another columnist, Froma Harrop of the Providence Journal:

"When the pollster calls and asks whether I think the country is going in the right direction, I will say 'no.' When she asks if I approve of the job Congress is doing, I will say 'no.' And when she follows up with a question on President Obama's performance, I will answer: 'Sometimes good, sometimes bad. The guy drives me nuts at times.'

"But when they ask whether I want Republicans to take back Washington, I'll respond: 'Are you out of your mind? We're still recovering from their last round of debauchery -- their fiscal irresponsibility, servility toward Wall Street, disrespect for science, contempt for the environment.'"


Harrop says she is a "reasonable woman," who does not care about ideology. And she adds that many voters must agree with her.

Well, I do, even if I do care about ideology.

Then, she says: "Republicans doubled the national debt under Bush. Perhaps they'd like to triple it the next time."

Actually, they have already done that: The national debt tripled during the administration of Ronald Reagan. He made his career by attacking "tax and spend" Democrats. Then he invented "tax and borrow" Republicanism. That was certified as party dogma when Vice President Dick Cheney told President George W. Bush: "Reagan proved deficits don't matter."


President Obama may have driven pundit Harrop a bit nuts last week. "You know, sometimes these pundits, they can't figure me out," the president said, campaigning in Kansas City, Mo. "They say, 'Well, why is he doing that? That doesn't poll well.' Well, I've got my own pollsters, I know it doesn't poll well. But it's the right thing to do for America."

That presidential "insight" was reported a day later, when The New York Times ran the headline "Obama Pushes an Agenda Without an Eye on Polls," over an analysis by Sheryl Gay Stolberg. His mistake, it seems, was doing what he said he would do when he campaigned for the presidency.

The Times analysis focuses on Obama's devotion to his agenda to the point that he ignored the immediate concerns of much of the nation:

"The political context has changed around him. Today, with unemployment remaining persistently near double digits despite the scale of the stimulus program and the BP oil spill having raised questions about his administration's competence, Mr. Obama's signature legislation is providing ammunition to conservatives who argue that government is the problem, not the solution. What Mr. Obama and his allies portray as progressive, activist government has been framed by his opponents as overreaching and profligate when it comes to the economy."

If you happen to think Obama is a reasonable man, you are impressed that he can survive at all in the current political context. His presidency and campaigns are and will be about a fundamental American question: What is the role of government?

Obama has shown what he thinks it is, as Stolberg wrote:

"Mr. Obama has done what he promised when he ran for office in 2008: He has used government as an instrument to try to narrow the gaps between the haves and the have-nots. He has injected $787 billion in tax dollars into the economy, provided health coverage to 32 million uninsured and now, reordered the relationship among Washington, Wall Street, investors and consumers."

That would look great to many -- and will to history -- without context changers like stubborn unemployment, suggesting fundamental changes in the economy that Obama and the rest of us do not yet understand, and the damned oil spill. That context changer is an example of how much hypocrisy the electorate can tolerate and pundits can understand. The same people who are attached to Reagan's line that the government is the problem, that we need less government outreach, are the people who have been attacking Obama for not doing enough in the Gulf.


Personally, I think the guy, the president, is doing a pretty good job in ominous times. I will repeat that if any pollster wants to call.

realclearpolitics.com



To: stockman_scott who wrote (82424)8/2/2010 11:13:42 AM
From: T L Comiskey  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
George Shultz challenges California to lead

By George Skelton

Capitol Journal

August 2, 2010

Reporting from Sacramento

Former U.S. secretary of State George P. Shultz believes it's crucial to fight global warming to protect national security.

Global warming is created by burning fossil fuel, he says, and payments for foreign oil sometimes wind up financing terrorism.

And Shultz, who's also a former Treasury secretary, thinks the nation suffers an "economic vulnerability" because of its oil addiction.

"While we have benefited from low-priced energy," he says, "we've also suffered from periodic spikes in the price of oil. Usually recessions go along with it."

Moreover, continues the man who set up the Environmental Protection Agency four decades ago, "There's a climate problem connected with the burning of fossil fuels.... The basic facts are pretty clear."

"So we have a three-pronged set of problems" created by greenhouse gases, he says. "Security, economic and environmental."

Shultz, 89, has been there, done a lot and thought through much — from the time he was President Nixon's first budget director to when he was President Reagan's chief strategist for ending the Cold War. In between, he became president of Bechtel, the engineering giant.

He's now with the Hoover Institution at Stanford University.

And he's co-chairman of the campaign against Proposition 23 on the November ballot.

Prop. 23, largely bankrolled by two Texas oil companies ( Valero and Tesoro) that operate refineries in California, would significantly hamper this state's efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

The goal is to pare back emissions to the 1990 level by 2020 — a cut of about 30% from what would be emitted if the state did nothing.

Prop. 23 would suspend AB 32 — the 2006 anti-global warming act championed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger — until the unemployment rate in California fell to at least 5.5% for a full year. Unemployment now exceeds 12%.

The act probably would be suspended for "many years," says the nonpartisan legislative analyst.

Prop. 23 advocates contend that with the economy struggling to recover, it's no time to experiment with feel-good global warming fights. It would drive up energy costs, spur a business migration out of state and kill jobs, they argue.

"No other state in the union imposes these kinds of regulatory framework," says Jon Coupal, president of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Assn., referring generally to the state's extensive thicket of business regulations. "They are, quite frankly, deterring business development in California and driving out a significant portion."

Not all of California's efforts to control greenhouse gases would be halted. There would still be new vehicle emission standards, a solar-installation program for homes and energy efficiency requirements.

But some ambitious programs would be shelved: a cap-and-trade plan that would permit businesses to buy or sell diminishing allowances for emissions, a "low-carbon fuel standard" for gasoline and a requirement that utilities obtain 33% of their electricity from renewable sources by 2020.

The ballot measure is a major issue in the gubernatorial campaign — at least, in Democrat Jerry Brown's view. He calls the global-warming fight a defining distinction between him and Republican Meg Whitman. Brown strongly opposes Prop. 23. Whitman is neutral but favors at least a one-year moratorium on AB 32.

Shultz also is a co-chairman of Whitman's campaign. But he disagrees with her on global warming. Suspending AB 32, he says, "would be a catastrophe."

But California can't combat global warming by itself — can't even make a dent. It's a worldwide issue, a point the Prop. 23 backers repeatedly make.

"For California to go it alone is suicide," says Assemblyman Dan Logue (R- Marysville), the ballot measure's original sponsor. "The economy of California will never recover."

AB 32 "will have virtually no impact on global warming," asserts Jack Stewart, president of the California Manufacturers and Technology Assn. "Why do you want to jeopardize California's economy for virtually no impact?"

Shultz addressed the "go it alone" argument before I could even ask him about it:

"As in a great many issues, a lot of the action and constructive activity, particularly in the United States, comes from the ground up, not from the top down. It comes from creative individuals, creative companies, universities and states that do things that then get emulated and spread.

"Obviously California can't take these issues on by itself. But it can lead the way. And it can be contagious. And we've seen that many times."

And, Shultz emphasizes, "national security is threatened:"

" President Eisenhower — a guy whose credentials on national security you had to respect — said that if we imported more than 20% of the oil we used, we were asking for trouble in national security terms. Now we're over 60%....

"The flow of funds from … oil producers in many cases goes to states that are antithetical to us and are trying to do us damage. And some of the money leaks out into terrorists' hands."

Shultz continues:

"People are saying, well, [AB 32] is a job killer. Undoubtedly there will be changes. That's the idea — to shift away from things that emphasize their dependence on oil....

"Sooner or later, somehow or other, there's going to be a price put on carbon. So everybody running companies … take a deep breath … better start adjusting to it.

"We're going to make energy created by the burning of fossil fuels more expensive. That's the idea. So people will use less of it.

"Those who are creating ways of producing energy with less of a carbon footprint will benefit."

A clash of the old and new economies.

Shultz is 89 but thinking like a post-grad student with his future still ahead

latimes.com