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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (35269)8/7/2010 12:17:46 PM
From: grusum2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 103300
 
look at this article.

i love the constitution because it is the best protection of people from government the world has ever seen. however, it might have been even better for the states to have remained loosely associated rather than united under one power. the main reason for the constitution was for the common protection from foreign powers. but there could have been an alliance of the sovereign states instead. that way power couldn't be so concentrated and so easily corrupted or subverted. it would have been like trying to herd cats. anyone that didn't like what his state was doing could easily move to another state. it would be much easier to vote with your feet than it is now.

after all, what does 'united we stand, divided we fall' really mean anyway? isn't it just saying 'might is right'? 'united we will force you, divided we can't'.

the more we decentralized power, the better off we would be. i'd rather it would have been 'the associated states of america' rather than 'the untied states of america'.

hamilton was afraid of anarchy. but there would never have been anarchy. jefferson had it correct. he was afraid of tyranny.

we don't have to fear anarchy because freedom doesn't really exist in anarchy like most people seem to believe. freedom needs to be protected by a government or it really doesn't exist.

here's the article..

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The U.S. Constitution: The 18th Century Patriot Act

At some point in the past, the American ethos was centered on suspicion of government –whether liberal, conservative, or otherwise. For most of America’s first two centuries, Americans were taxed less, regulated less, and left more alone by their government than any other people in the world. These conditions resulted in an explosion of innovation, wealth, and culture unsurpassed at any time in human history.

As that trend seems to have reversed, Americans look to their past to try to establish where we have gone wrong and what we can do to solve our problems. Increasingly, some Americans point to the U.S. Constitution and our abandonment of its “limits on government” as the reason for our downfall. It is generally argued by “strict constitutionalists” that the purpose of the U.S. Constitution was to limit the power of the government. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Don’t get me wrong. If our government were limited to the powers granted it in that document, the United States of America would be far freer, far more prosperous, and likely not facing any of the monumental problems that it is facing now. However, that does not change the facts about why the Constitutional Convention was called or why the Constitution itself was created. If you are astounded that any Republican can still claim that George Bush was “pro-freedom” or that any Democrat can claim that Barack Obama is “anti-war,” you should be equally surprised that anyone can claim that the U.S. Constitution limited the powers of the central government.

Remember that there was already a federal government of the United States prior to the U.S. Constitution. It was defined in a document called the Articles of Confederation and had been in existence since 1778. Under the Articles, the young nation had defeated the mightiest military empire in human history to win its independence. Acknowledging the true meaning of the words “federation” and “federal,” the document defined the relationship between the states as “a firm league of friendship with each other.” There was no implication that the United States was one nation and the several states merely subdivisions within it. There was no president to usurp power. There was no Supreme Court to legally sanction tyranny. There was no IRS. While the federal government would pay for any war fought by the federation out of a common treasury, the Articles left the actual act of taxation to the States.

“The taxes for paying that proportion shall be laid and levied by the authority and direction of the legislatures of the several States within the time agreed upon by the United States in Congress assembled."[1]

Compared to the overtaxed, overregulated society that is America today, the America of the 19th century was one of astounding liberty and prosperity. However, even America after 1787 had much more government than America in its first decade. We are taught that this was a grave problem and that the Constitution was necessary to avoid imminent destruction from any number of horrors, including invasion by a foreign power, civil war, or economic upheaval as a result of protectionism by the states. We accept these assertions as facts because of the reverence we hold for the founders of our country. However, how different was the atmosphere surrounding the Constitutional Convention from that surrounding the Patriot Act, the TARP bailout, or the current efforts to expand government power in the name of environmentalism? Despite the pure heresy of the idea, there was really no difference at all.

By 1787, there were two dominant parties in America. Unlike the two dominant parties today, the Federalists and what would later become the Democratic-Republicans of that time really were diametrically opposed on fundamental issues. Led by Alexander Hamilton, the Federalists sought a much more powerful central government with a central bank, a standing army, and an alliance with big business that would control the economy. In opposition to them were Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, and their followers that believed that the central government’s powers should be limited, and that power should be concentrated locally (and mistrusted generally). They opposed a central bank and a standing army and supported a truly free market.

It was not Thomas Jefferson or Patrick Henry that led the effort to call the Constitutional Convention, which neither even attended. It was Hamilton and his Federalists that wanted it. As superbly documented in his book, Hamilton’s Curse, Thomas Dilorenzo reminds us that Hamilton actually wanted even more power for the central government than he eventually got into the Constitution.

“At the convention, Hamilton proposed a permanent president and senate, with all political power in the national government, as far away as possible from the people, and centered in the executive. He also wanted “all laws of the particular states, contrary to the constitution or the laws of the United States [government], to be utterly void,” and he proposed that “the governor…of each state shall be appointed by the general government, and shall have a negative [i.e., a veto] upon the laws about to be passed in the state of which he is governor.”[2]

Hamilton did not succeed in getting all of the power he wanted for the central government, but he succeeded in increasing that power quite a bit. This too should seem familiar. At every point in American history that interested parties have tried to expand the power of government, they have attempted at expansive powers and settled for something less than they sought but more than they previously had. With each “compromise,” Americans lost a little more of their liberty.

When viewed objectively, the very words of the Constitution reveal its true purpose. Constitutionalists often cite Article I Section 8 as proof of the limits on the powers granted to the federal government, but let’s not forget what that section actually says. It begins,

“The Congress shall have the power to…”

What follows is a long list of powers that the central government did not previously have. Each subsequent section of the Constitution invests power in the one of the three branches of government. Nowhere in the document are these powers limited, except for the short (but nevertheless important) list of exceptions contained in Section 9.

Of course, supporters of the Constitution would point out that the first ten amendments to the Constitution are actually a list of specific limits on government. Indeed they are. However, most people miss the point of those precious amendments. They represent the compromise, the attempt to limit the damage that was already done by the original document. Although several states tried to hold out for a bill of rights before ratifying the Constitution, those ten amendments weren’t actually ratified until 1791 – four years after the Constitution was ratified. They do not change the intent or nature of the Constitution itself – the massive expansion of the power of the central government.

Like the Patriot Act, the TARP bill, and the coming Climate Treaty, The U.S Constitution was conceived and drafted in an atmosphere of panic that was created by proponents of big government for the express purpose of using fear to win support for a massive expansion of government power. Also like TARP or the Patriot Act, it was debated in secret by a convention of delegates that were told that unspeakable horrors awaited America if they did not pass it immediately. Like most expansions of government power, its proponents did not get everything that they hoped for, but they got a lot more power than they had. Most importantly, the next debate over the size and scope of government started from there. The seeds of America’s multi-trillion dollar welfare-warfare state really lie in this seminal expansion of government power.

The U.S. Constitution does not embody the American spirit. It is a document that grants power to government. The document that truly embodies the American spirit is the Declaration of Independence, which was written expressly to remove all power from the existing government. If Americans are truly interested in reclaiming their liberty, they should look to this revolutionary document as the source of their inspiration. After such a long train of abuses, it is past time that we instituted new guards for our future security.

[1] Article VIII, Articles of Confederation

[2] Dilorenzo, Thomas Hamilton’s Curse Crown Publishing Group (Random House) New York, NY 2008 Pg. 16

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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (35269)8/7/2010 12:18:56 PM
From: Hope Praytochange1 Recommendation  Respond to of 103300
 
The Rogues' Gallery Of Government
Posted 08/06/2010 06:56 PM ET

Washington: Social Security is deep in the red, the post office is losing billions, and Fannie Mae's back for another handout. These and other examples speak volumes about government fecklessness and negligence.

Social Security checks mailed in 2010 will total $41 billion more than the program will collect in payroll-tax revenues, trustees reported last Thursday. The program will also run a deficit next year, before briefly returning to surpluses for a few years. Then the red ink will be back — for good — starting in 2015, a year earlier than previously projected.

Some analysts believe that while deficits begin this year, 2015 is key because that's when Social Security will need permanent injections of cash from general revenues. The billions the program will require, says David C. John of the Heritage Foundation, "will make it harder to find money for other government programs or require large and growing tax increases."

Over the long haul, Social Security is liable for paying out $7.9 trillion more in benefits than it will receive in tax revenues.

While digesting that grim news, don't forget Thursday's report that the U.S. Postal Service lost $3.5 billion for the quarter that ended June 30. Over the same quarter last year, the post office lost only $2.4 billion. Three-fourths of the way through its current fiscal year, losses at the Postal Service have totaled $5.4 billion.

The post office's future is as dim, if not dimmer, than its past.

"Given current trends, we will not be able to pay all 2011 obligations," said Joseph Corbett, chief financial officer of a government agency — forget its claims of independence — that has lost money in 14 of its last 16 quarters despite its legal monopoly.

"It is clear that a liquidity problem is looming and must be addressed through fundamental changes requiring legislation and changes to contracts," he said.

That's in the near term. After that, the outlook only gets worse. The Postal Service, beneficiary of $27 billion in taxpayers' money since 1970, could lose $238 billion or more over the next decade.

Obviously there's something wrong with the way the post office does business, a fact that hasn't gone unnoticed by an auditor's report earlier this year — or by the typical American who just wants to mail a parcel.

While most of Washington is taking the month off, on Aug. 17 the White House will host a conference on the future of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the troubled government-controlled home mortgage giants. A variety of academics, consumer and community organizations, industry groups and others who have an interest in the issue will attend the Conference on the Future of Housing Finance.

One topic sure to come up is the continuing losses by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. On Thursday, Fannie reported that it lost $1.2 billion in the second quarter. While losses are never acceptable, at least it didn't bleed as profusely as in the first quarter, when it lost $11.5 billion, or in the same quarter last year, when $14.8 billion slipped through its hands.

The report also noted that Fannie Mae wants an additional $1.5 billion in federal aid as a follow-up to the $8.4 billion it received on June 30. Overall, Fannie Mae has received $86.1 billion "from Treasury to eliminate the company's second-quarter 2010 net worth deficit," according to its documents.

Freddie Mac has yet to report its second-quarter loss. But no one will be surprised it if takes a big hit and asks for more money as well. Through the first quarter, it's devoured $63 billion in bailout funds from taxpayers.

It doesn't inspire confidence when the people who are driving these institutions — Social Security, the Postal Service, Fannie and Freddie — into the ground are the same ones who believe they should control and manage the economy.

It's no coincidence that for all their planning, everything they have placed themselves in charge of, or refused to turn over to the private sector, is failing.

Not one of the services that these exhausted organizations provide has to be performed by the federal government. Each of them — pensions, mail correspondence and home mortgages — can be handled more effectively by private enterprise.

While it's well past the time that all should have been sold or turned over to the market, that doesn't mean that it's too late.

But one day it will be. Our next set of lawmakers need to understand: The deadline for doing something is fast approaching.