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To: Ali Chen who wrote (25703)	11/8/1997 9:05:00 PM
From: Elmer	Respond to of 1579136

Ali, It would seem apparent that because AMD can hardly make any 233mhz K6's the chances of overclocking one is very small. Seeing as the K6 needs the vcc jacked up just to run, you might say that it's already overclocked to start with. Intel makes 233mhz Pentium MMX's like jelly beans. I would think the chances of over clocking one is quite high. Maybe the overclocked K6 does score higher on that benchmark but as has been stated before, you can't plug a benchmark into your processor socket. That's why AMD is losing money and Intel is making it. EP

To: Ali Chen who wrote (25703)	11/8/1997 9:14:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1579136

Ali - Re: " So what is your real position? " Good question. Basically, overclocking is a fools' game. A manufacturer specifies what the operating limits are for a given device, and that manufacture generally guarantees the performance of the device, under the conditions that those limits are not exceeded. People who want speed but choose to overclock their slow systems should buy the highest speed Intel product - and run it "in spec" to get the highest performance. It will be worth the extra money knowing that it was designed and tested to work properly under those conditions. My point in illustrating Anand's results was to corroborate Yousef's continued position that Intel's process technology has a lot more capability than AMD's. Anand confirmed this with his successful operation of a Pentium MMX (0.35 micron process) at 290 MHz - at 2.8 volts. If you weren't so hair-triggered to always blindly lash out at anything Intel, showing your deep envy and jealosy of their products and success, you would have understood the post I made to Yousef. Ultimately, this "game" comes down to technolgy and successful implementation of that technology. And Intel is winning that game on both fronts. Flame on, Ali - I can almost envision the veins bulging out in your temples - maybe you'll bust a gut one of these days! K^6 - taking a big byte out of Sanders and AMD's balance sheet these days. Paul