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To: DebtBomb who wrote (270159)	8/20/2010 6:29:16 AM
From: Giordano Bruno	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

The Social Security Trust Fund: The checks are in the mail. (less 25 billion) zerohedge.com Happy 75th birthday Ron Paul

To: DebtBomb who wrote (270159)	8/20/2010 7:09:57 AM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 306849

You have to keep in mind that money is an abstraction for goods and services. And that money has to be put into the hands of purchasers of goods and services in order to become relevant. Most of the deficit/stimulus has gone to "make whole" the bank balances of persons who blew it earlier during the housing boom. That money had already been spent. And the persons made whole weren't the borrowers, for the most part, it was the lenders. The borrowers are still often in debt, or at best left where they shouldn't be lent any more (as they shouldn't have been lent anything in the first place). Cases like Argentina and Weimar Germany had the money printed by the government AND spent by the government - it acted as fiscal stimulus. In our current situation the money is being printed by the government and made available to be lent by a handful of well connected private institutions. There's a huge difference between being "made available to lend" and "spent." Look at aggregate demand for goods and services - it's down. Look at prices - after inflating rapidly during the real estate boom years, prices are now stabilizing. The money may have been printed, but as long as it sits in stacks in bank vaults, it's irrelevant.

To: DebtBomb who wrote (270159)	8/20/2010 9:13:33 AM
From: Lazarus	Respond to of 306849

when you plant your beets do you use varietals of various colors or do you just stick with the deep purples?

To: DebtBomb who wrote (270159)	8/20/2010 2:28:59 PM
From: Skeeter Bug	Respond to of 306849

1. Financial crisis - check (credit crisis at the core) 2. Sovereign debt defaults - check 3. Currency crisis - not sold yet. not even close (i've been wrong big before!) weimar and zimbabwe were not lorded over by the international banking cartel. when has the international banking cartel ever inflated to bail out those it enslaved with debt? never. never ever. sure, they inflated away currencies into nothingness while their debts were in other currencies - effectively increasing their debt load and further enslaving them. i think it boils down to who controls the money and credit - and private bankers aka the international banking cartel does in the US and other western countries. it doesn't in the muslim world, which may help explain why the banksters want to spend our money to impose their rule on the muslims - you know, other than running their $100 billion heroin operations. imho, the question is whether the international banking cartel (IBC) cares enough about the people of the nation and the government of the nation to inflate away their debts and reduce its own iron grip of debt slavery upon the populace... imho, the answer is an obvious "hll no, they worked incredibly hard and risked life imprison to criminally put us in this position!" now, that's not to say that these people are omnipotent - they aren't. but they do need to be respected as their verbalized plans are coming to fruition. since they hold almost all the debt, i expect them to do everything they can, over the medium to long term, to increase the value of what they own - the debt. they also rule the euro, so they will manipulate opinion in order to keep the dollar or the euro from falling too much. i understand europe is even more bankrupt than the US, so they have to threaten devaluation to keep the euro from plunging off the map - but the reality in europe and the US will eventually hit home, the debts will be paid or defaulted and the money supply should contract DRAMATICALLY making cash king and the holders of the debt THE RULERS OF THE WORLD! this will lead to conflict as those left without a face from being ripped off will be pretty upset. likely war - perhaps even on our own soil. but the IBC are into eugenics, so they kill, as it were, too birds with one stone - they become RULERS OF THE WORLD and they significantly REDUCE POPULATION (leaving more resources for themselves). yes, bernanke will print to offset many of the banker losses - but their losses far exceed whatever he can reasonably print. bernanke WILL NOT print debt to help joe6pack pay its bills - on its face it sounds absurd. like spending more credit to fix a credit problem. NOT! i'm not sure what happens if we screw foreigners and they stop accepting dollars in return for goods. the supply of dollars (debt) would decrease dramatically, making the buck worth dramatically more, in theory, but what good is a buck if your main counter party won't take it? i don't know. maybe america works to rebuild it industrial base. either way - get prepared for a dislocation of epic proportions. in case you missed this brilliant expose... zerohedge.com "We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." David Rockefeller "We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years (the media is completely controlled). It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." (The Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Republic must fall so the dictators can be enshrined) David Rockefeller... Baden-Baden, Germany 1991 "Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution (40 million to 80 million Chinese murdered), it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale (for the slave labor) and community of purpose (slave labor serves the "intellectual elites" so they can sit on their ss and live in opulence). The social experiment (the CIA set up Mao, perhaps the "intellectual elite" were behind it) in China under Chairman Mao's leadership (one of the most efficient murderers to ever walk the face of planet Earth) is one of the most important and successful in human history." David Rockefeller