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To: Alighieri who wrote (583325)	8/30/2010 10:46:20 AM
From: TimF	Respond to of 1573439

I wasn't quoting work supporting of my views. The article quoted in my post doesn't rely on the CBO as an authority for its conclusion. It still seems odd to me how everything with you is about who says what, not what they say. If someone is arguing or something the argument is what's key, not the arguer. No one is always right, and in terms of being always wrong well "even a stopped clock is right twice a day". If the argument presented in the article I quoted was from the CBO, or heavily reliant on it (and its neither), "you didn't like what the CBO said before", is no counterargument, esp. since my objection to the CBO before was not "oh its the CBO, it has to be wrong", or such nonsense, but rather pointing out specific flaws in the study, primarily the enormous one that it assumes its conclusion and therefore can be an argument for nothing. The primary point shouldn't be "do I love this source". If the answer to that isn't yes, that doesn't mean you can never or should never use them. I could present arguments without identifying the source, but that would be plagiarism.

To: Alighieri who wrote (583325)	8/30/2010 10:55:27 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573439

>> No...of course. Particularly the work that's supportive of your views. I've heard this same, ignorant argument time and again when arguing these issues with leftwingers. It is beyond ridiculous and even a childish argument. CBO has a track record of failure in estimating the cost of health care programs. Just show us one that came in anywhere NEAR what CBO predicted. Even when they're wrong the other direction (as in Part D, where the Bush Plan resulted in an astounding budgetary success, now ruined by the Democrats), they're wrong badly. Is that to say CBO is the gang that can't shoot straight? No, they're doing the best that can be expected with a horrible situation. Why can you not see this and take a more reasonable attitude? You remind me of employees in our family fast food business (those would be minimum wage employees who are overpaid given their abilities). You correct them about undercooking hamburgers, and next thing they are burning to bits. No ability to learn rationally, only to be instructed on keeping it between the ditches.