To: tejek who wrote (583864 ) 9/1/2010 4:24:37 PM From: TimF Respond to of 1577023 Racism is like an iceberg; frequently you only see the tip of it. 1 - That also applies to the general population. 2 - Seeing the tip, unlike an iceberg, doesn't mean you have a good idea about how big the rest is. 3 - We don't always see racism that is there, but also people see racism that isn't there. 2 - Unless its A LOT higher, there isn't any good reason to make it an issue. The only reason not to make an issue of it is because the tea party has been doing a good job of self policing. Do you mean the only reason to make an issue of it? Your comment doesn't make a lot of sense as written. A failure by the tea party to counter racism within its ranks, would be a reason to make something of an issue (if there was a high level of racism, which apparently there is not). The tea party doesn't really have ranks, there is no formal membership, there are a lot of groups, and other people who go to rallies or even just hold the same views, who aren't members of any of the groups. Pretty hard to police that, but from what I've seen the few cases of open display of racism at the rallys (apparently mostly or perhaps completely by those trying to discredit the tea party, rather than acting as part of it) have gotten a rather negative response by the tea party protesters. 1 - False - Gallup's data show 79% "Non-Hispanic white". 6% are "Non-Hispanic black" (Which is lower than the 11 percent in the general population, but is actually higher than would be expected considering the voting habits of American blacks). Do you have a link? The actual gallup poll page (which is pretty easy to find with Google), doesn't display for me for some reason (I tried by Firefox and IE), but its been posted here before, and its quoted all over the internet. "Tea Party supporters resemble the population at large. 79 percent of Tea Partiers, for example, are "non-Hispanic white", as compared with 75 percent of the entire country."huffingtonpost.com theatlantic.com "Today Gallup released their own look at the Tea Party movement with a slight difference. The Winston Poll surveyed people who said they were part of the Tea Party movement, this Gallup Poll identifies people who say they support the Tea Party movement. One can assume that these audiences are very similar as the Tea Party base is 27% US in Winston and 28% in Gallup. Gallup reports that Tea Party supporters skew right politically; but come from all political parties and demographically, they are generally representative of the public at large. Gallup is reporting that more than half of Tea Party supporters are NOT Republican, but they tend to be much more conservative than the general population. Also, compared with average Americans, supporters are slightly more male and less likely to be lower-income. Keep in mind, that the $50,000 bracket shown as the highest income bracket below is actually the average US Household income, so it cannot be discerned whether these people are upscale, or around average. In several other respects, however -- their age, educational background, employment status, and race (yes RACE) , Tea Partiers are quite representative of the public at large. This is slightly different than the Winston poll which projected that the typical Tea Party member was older than the general public.yidwithlid.blogspot.com