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To: TideGlider who wrote (37463)	9/11/2010 7:54:02 PM
From: John	1 Recommendation Respond to of 103300

TideGlider: I think you should carefully consider that you are generalizing much too much about blacks. Are you serious? All Blacks benefit from affirmative action laws, EEO laws, desegregation laws, civil rights laws, artificial quotas, and the race card. How much more generalized can a race issue be than that? How is it possible to take Blacks seriously when ALL OF THEM benefit from racist laws? TideGlider: If you want to make an argument against affirmative action it is much easier to define it by whom it harms rather than who it benefits. Excellent point. Blacks are routinely admitted to a colleges based on skin color alone. Their high school grades are waived. The utter absence of credentials and academic merit are waived. Entrance scores are waived. This action harms deserving Whites students with good grades, credentials, academic merit, and entrance scores. Black businesses and contractors are routinely given government contracts based on skin color alone. This practice harms deserving White-owned corporations and contractors with superior services, prices, products, and employees. Blacks are routinely hired by companies in accordance with EEO laws, affirmative action laws, etc., based on skin color alone. This practice harms Whites with legitimate credentials and superior abilities. It also harms the corporations and the other employees who have to carry the extra weight of the weaker, token employees. TideGlider: It harms ALL others previously in line for the positions taken by affirmative action hires. It harms black and latino people who are more than qualified because others will always doubt they legitimately were awarded their positions. I strongly agree. TideGlider: It harms poor white people who never had a chance. I strongly agree.

To: TideGlider who wrote (37463)	9/11/2010 10:46:19 PM
From: GROUND ZERO™	6 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 103300

Affirmative action harms everyone, it lowers the standard of excellence that made this country strong and powerful in the first place... because of affirmative action this country has been reduced to a state of mediocrity, this country no longer stand tall and proud, it's now slouching and stumbling, obungle is an example of how a mediocre individual who hates America can go to the top universities and law schools and eventually become president, only through affirmative action... do you think he could accomplish ANYTHING comparable in his sorry life if he were judged only on his genuine abilities? The guy can't even speak without a prompter... obungle was created through affirmative action, he's the finished product, the end result, the human embodiment of affirmative action... GZ