To: tejek who wrote (585176 ) 9/12/2010 5:10:29 PM From: Brumar89 Respond to of 1575623 Nonwhite folks are just as likely to be evangelicals as whites. Even if that were true which I doubt, Well, you don't know much about it. >o? none of the non white evangelicals have the political clout white evangelicals do. Actually evangelicals aren't really about political clout. Politics rarely plays a part in evangelical churches. And Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, mentioned in your earlier post, are not evangelicals. Think TD Jakes. ------------------------You mean you think we're more civilized. I wouldn't go that far. First off, many Muslims are well educated and affluent. Osama bin Ladin, for example. Zawahiri, the doctor, for another example. The guy who tried to blow up a vehicle in NYC recently. KSM, who confessed to beheading that reporter named Pearl, went to college in North Carolina. They come from much more violent societies. That's just another way of saying they're less civilized. -----------------------------------------------In addition, they have been subjected to considerable violence from outsiders fighting over their oil. Egypt, Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia have no oil. Okay, Yemen has a little but not much. Those countries haven't been invaded or attacked by outsiders till they attacked us or people attacked us from their soil. At any rate, we didn't initiate any conflict with them prior to being attacked. ---------------------------------------------- The ME was civilized thousands of years before northern Europe. If anything they should be more civilized than us. Don't liberals always brag about how advanced Islam was in the middle ages (remember you posting about the glories of Cordoba)? I think those boasts are gross exaggerations but apparently you folks don't even believe the stuff you say. Very true. The Islamic empires became fairly corrupt, did not espouse democratic principles like some Euro nations and did not have an industrial revolution. In addition, they experienced considerable climatic change....much of which is their fault. So then, they are not as advanced as the West. The climatic change is bogus, but the rest is just rewording they're not as civilized. I say they ought to be. --------------------------------------------------Muslims on the other hand are, in your mind, brown third worlders and you EXPECT them to be murderous savages .... so you have a very low standard of behavior expected for them. Now, you're in my mind??? Get over yourself, Brumar. I think I'm accurate there. --------------------------------------------------------Sure I do. But he is less responsible for Muslims killing Americans than the Muslims who commit the crimes. You should direct your outrage at the people you know are bloodthirsty killers. You mean like Reagan and Ariel Sharon? No. There's that false moral equivalence again. --------------------------------------------------------Tell me, what about violence over the Mohammed cartoons in Denmark? Do you think that cartoonist was as horrible as Terry Jones? No, I think Jones was a much bigger problem. Sure, Jones was an American (a southern American at that), not a Euro. A Christian, not a secular guy. Yet Jones ultimately didn't do anything. The cartoonist did. Of course, in both cases, the ultimate blame for any blood shed lies with the savages who shed the blood.