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To: one_less who wrote (585564)9/14/2010 8:48:24 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575758
 
They believe the book of Isa (Jesus) was lost and the New Testament is a close accounting recollected years later, but not of his life only of particular salient events and issues.

Of course. That is very different from Christian belief. No reason not to say that. The Muslim view would be based on Mohammed's personal revelation .... which no one but a Muslim would put faith in.
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Muslims have the right to demand whatever they believe is right for them to demand.

But they need to know that they can't expect others to give them what they demand.
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What you call your 'beliefs' about Mohammad are preconceived notions that have been fed to you to bolster your position as the champion of Christianity.


Again, no. They're what I've read from quotes from Islamic source documents.

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The intent is clearly based on strategem not on knowledge and understanding, which I have repeatedly pointed out but feel free to deny it till the cows come home.

And I will insist that I know my intent and its to honestly understand Islam. I believe that when Muslims go militant, they do so under the influence of teachings based on a literal reading of Muslim source documents.

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>> Minor correction: OTOH, its a fact that Asia Minor, Syria, Egypt and north Africa were all once Christian Conquered: colonized if you prefer territories.

You are quite wrong about that. No Christian armies swept across these territories conquering them for Christianity. They were part of the Roman empire and became Christianized over time as Christianity took over the empire.

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And conquest by Muslims changed that." Check with American Indians regarding their view of being colonized if you need a reference.


Now there is an example of Christianity being spread by force - at least in places like Mexico and Latin America, the American southwest.

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"I think the negative information about Mohammed is scholarly."

To the extent slander based on ignorance and fear is scholarly you are correct. Otherwise your statement is false.


I will amend my statement, its as scholarly as the Muslim siras and hadiths.

You don't want to admit the negative view of Mohammed comes totally from those sources.
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When minorities become a majority tolerance seems to become a nuisance, something to be given lip service to but otherwise cast aside, as you have competently demonstrated.

In what way am I being intolerant? I'm not telling you you have to change your views. I'm stating what I believe and why.
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"... if sharia were established as you think it should be,"

So now you can know my thoughts? You know a lot of sinister stuff about people which has no basis. I've never expressed such a thought or desire, I haven't given it much thought except to notice bizarre fears about what it would entail coming from the likes of you. Personally, I would definitely prefer not to see Sharia law as a ruling authority here. I like the system we have, as imperfect as it is.


I'm going on what I remember of your favorable comments about sharia in a previous post. I took your assurance it wouldn't be so bad as meaning you favored it for America. Based on your clear statement above to the contrary, I hereby retract my statement.

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But you interpret that as a life and death fear, you are sounding more and more whacked out with each post.

"I would be in danger of my life just for posting the things I've said. "

What nonsense. Get a grip. no, that doesn't mean giving irrelevant examples (proof) from other cultures or ancient history.


Maybe. I hope I'm over-reacting. I'm surprised by your insistance I have a malicious motive for posting lies about Mohammed - on the contrary, I think what I've posted is factual and I KNOW it comes from Islamic sira and hadiths.

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I suppose you are acting like an extremist nut case.

And thats exactly what I've gotten from some of your most recent posts.
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More and more prone to planting false-facts to justify slanderous comments. I can't way to see what's on the next level. You've become intoxicated with irrational hatred dude.

Thats how you see it. I think I've just posted unpleasant facts. So unpleasant you have to attack me as a hateful bigot.

As I've said, it gives me no pleasure to post unpleasant things .... but should I do, lie? Pretend something I sincerely believe not to be true to protect your feelings?