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To: TobagoJack who wrote (66213)9/19/2010 4:35:09 AM
From: Canuck Dave  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 218673
 
You see this? I think Doug's about got it right.

Message 26831731

CD

p.s. How you adjusting to two Tobago-ettes?



To: TobagoJack who wrote (66213)9/19/2010 11:14:54 AM
From: Hawkmoon8 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 218673
 
why should this bit of truth surprise you? i am astounded.

It doesn't "surprise" me.. I was just unaware of the facts. Thanks for bringing the incident to my attention.

And I can easily see how a military occupation force, defeated and devoid of discipline and professionalism, could easily become nothing better than an armed mob.

Chiang was little different than Mao. Chiang was a dictator and Mao was a totalitarian tyrant.

Still, there is democratic pressure on the Taipei government to reveal the truth, and end the cover-up:

The subject was officially taboo for decades. On the anniversary of the event in 1995, President Lee Teng-hui addressed the subject publicly, a first for a Taiwanese head of state. The event is now openly discussed and commemorated as Peace Memorial Day

en.wikipedia.org

They are coming to terms with their past, while in China, they still jail those professors who seek to teach their students about the events surrounding Tiananmen Square.

Face it, you don't even have the guts to criticize the Bejing regime for refusal to renounce Mao for his "cultural revolution"..

Nor are you willing to criticize the ongoing policy of forced abortions. It's one thing for a woman to choose to abort her child, but quite another for some politician to order women to abort their pregnancy in order to fulfill some policy iniative from Bejing.

In fact, I've never heard you criticize Bejing's policies even once. You just justify, or deflect and avoid.

I just wonder whether it's because you're afraid to speak out publicly, or just avoiding any feelings of self-inflicted shame.

But we Americans constantly criticize our government every day. In fact, we're permanently in a state of self-imposed guilt as we debate abuses and embarrassing events in our past (slavery, Vietnam, Kent State) as well as catching the world's "heat" for all the problems that exist.

And while I can acknowledge and detest events in our past, I don't have to feel personally responsible for them because I wasn't responsible. But it remains a part of our history that we must learn from and endeavor not to repeat. What I'm responsible for is today and the future. It's my responsibility to promote freedom and create positive change at every opportunity, while confronting ever-present human evil where I possess the ability.

So what will China's future look like? Will they promote individual freedom and accountable government? Will they share the responsibility that has been born by the US and the West for creating positive change in the undeveloped world?

the wise folks engaging with gold are very astute.

Then they are betting that China's experiment is not going to work, right?

I care about the role that China's government is going to play in creating individual prosperity around the world, as it develops it own economy. And I care about the role the Chinese people foresee for themselves in this world.

We can cooperate for mutual benefit and grow the global economic pie, or we can find ourselves in a rivalry over how what already exists is divided.

And like I've mentioned over and over again, in a Fascist state, the private sector is only permitted to "conduct business" to the extent that it benefits the agenda of the state. This is what we fear in the West.. that economic progress will only make Bejing more assertive in pushing it's neighbors around.

I think you recognize this, even though you seem afraid to acknowledge it publicly.

Hawk



To: TobagoJack who wrote (66213)9/19/2010 1:14:18 PM
From: Hawkmoon3 Recommendations  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 218673
 
TJ.. Les H posted this story and I wondering what your take is on it:

mcclatchydc.com

My immediate question is why the local police aren't taking custody of the bodies to determine cause of death and whether it was homicide, or suicide.. Don't they even care?

And here's another story in which a Chinese author is taking a terrible risk in criticizing China's Prime Ministers, as well as the entire government:

The main purpose of this book is not just to criticize Wen Jiabao," said Yu, wearing a short-sleeve polo shirt that hung loose on his narrow shoulders and slightly rumpled slacks. "To criticize the top leaders of this government is the right of every Chinese citizen. If I'm not put into prison after the book was published, I hope this will encourage more people to speak out."

Read more: mcclatchydc.com

Do you agree that he's an incredibly brave man?

Hawk