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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (66330)9/22/2010 1:38:06 AM
From: TobagoJack4 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 219195
 
you mean the french colonialists were not present in vietnam and did not make up some phooey equation independence struggle with communism, and so forcing the independence strugglers to veer towards the only powers who would not standby and watch babies slaughter by your comrades?

gad, we must read different history texts, with you getting yours from the fiction department

re n.vietnam attacks, does the name golf of tonkin mean anything to you?

guess not, and did not expect otherwise.

if you and your ilk are righteous about the war against peasants of se asia, and god was on your side, how come you lost, and lost so very badly? because you did not have enough courage or did not drop enough bombs and chemicals from up on high, bravely?

tell another tale, please, for i wish to see just how foolish you can appear to be.



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (66330)9/22/2010 1:46:30 AM
From: TobagoJack2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 219195
 
<<Funny thing is that China was the primary supporter of N. Korea while the USSR was the supporter of N. Vietnam. And when the Soviet/N. Vietnamese threat then turned to Cambodia, suddenly China was willing to support a despot that the US couldn't morally support, to thwart the incursion.>>

you really haven't a clue. china supported vietnam independence movement and struggle against team usa with more than equipment, but with troops ... the russians sent some engineers

... and you thought you lost the war to vietnamese peasants ... just how ignorant do you wish to remain and how non-mathematical are you?

oh, yes, and chinese troops were not recorded to have deliberated killed babies, raped farm girls, and disembowled pregnant mothers (per phoenix program), but your comrades and alumni networks did and were captured by camera ... do you wish to see photos of officially encouraged, instigated, engineered, and sanctyioned war crimes? i do not have the stomach to reference those.

"funny" is a word you seem to use often.

globalsecurity.org

"... In 1965, US air strikes were ordered against North Vietnam. By late 1965, such air strikes became part and parcel to daily activities of those stationed in Vietnam. But US forces were not permitted to attack some targets for fear of Chinese retaliation. The perceived danger from Communist China influenced President Johnson's choice of means for ensuring the survival of a South Vietnam independent of the North. In 1950, when United Nations forces threatened to overrun North Korea, China had come to the aid of its Communist neighbor. As the Vietnam War intensified in 1965 and 1966, so, too, did the Chinese commitment to the survival of North Vietnam. By the spring of the latter year, some 50,000 Chinese troops served in North Vietnam, a total that may have tripled before China began to withdraw its forces in 1968. Until President Johnson limited ROLLING THUNDER to southern North Vietnam, effective April 1, 1968, China gave refuge to North Vietnamese fighters when airfields in the North came under aerial attack, and reports surfaced of Chinese pilots flying North Vietnamese interceptors. During this period of involvement, China made no secret of its sympathy for the Hanoi government; prudence therefore required that the Johnson administration consider the possibility of further Chinese intervention. Concern that China might react as it had fifteen years earlier in Korea argued powerfully for relying on air power rather than invasion to convince Hanoi to call off the war in the South. Having turned to air power, the Johnson administration chose to apply it in a gradually escalating fashion. President John F. Kennedy's recent success in compelling the Soviet Union to with draw bombers and ballistic missiles from Cuba bred confidence in the gradual application of force ...

... Nixon resumed bombing of North Vietnam in response to the North Vietnamese 1972 Easter offensive, and mined North Vietnamese ports and bombed Hanoi and Haiphong in late 1972. Such pressure was intended, at least in part, to force North Vietnam to sign an armistice. In early 1973 the United States, North and South Vietnam, and the Viet Cong signed an armistice. American military activities in Cambodia and Laos, which had continued after the cease-fire in South Vietnam went into effect, ended in 1973 when Congress cut off funds."


regarding "despot", do you care to point out the obvious despot in the above history? elected by and for the people