To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (587767 ) 9/28/2010 12:46:19 AM From: TimF Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575121 No its a lot of substance, an actual lists of programs I'd cut, one's I'd eliminate, and one's I'd restrain the growth of. Its nowhere near a full budget proposal of course, but I don't shy away from the biggest programs and just make cuts in a bunch of small things. I proposed eliminating whole departments... More than dollar numbers the one thing that would really be needed is how the specific "cuts" (in quotes because they are reductions of future benefit increases, but not necessarily cuts from current spending), I didn't provide detail there because I was making a post about many areas of cuts, not going to minute detail about one, and also because I'm flexible about how its done. Raise the retirement age (perhaps index it to life expectancy), reduce benefit increases to not increase the real per person payment when wages go up more than inflation. There are any number of acceptable ideas of Social Security. Raising the eligibility age would also save money on Medicare. Medicaid would be trickier and more complex. I don't have a lot of specifics for you now on that one. Defense I mainly want to follow its long term trend of shrinking as a percentage of the economy because the economy grows over time more than defense spending does. I don't support making general nominal dollar cuts in capability. For medium sized programs, eliminating agriculture support programs would save in the low tens of billions per year. You would get billions more from killing other federal subsidies, and billions mar from canceling the war on drugs. There is lots of substance in that, at least for a forum like this. What there isn't is enough political power behind the changes.