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To: koan who wrote (83856)	10/6/2010 5:32:14 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Oh I see it. Its the flip side of the wingers and their call for small gov't, no taxes, no abortions.......its balls to the walls and no room for compromise.

To: koan who wrote (83856)	10/6/2010 5:35:59 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Respond to of 89467

associatedcontent.com tejek can never understand this "Remember, the founders of America were citizens of England at the time and they went far beyond merely expressing disapproval. So anyone saying “America: Love it or leave it” is, in reality, expressing the single most un-American sentiment possible."

To: koan who wrote (83856)	10/6/2010 6:03:06 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

This is typical: nytimes.com The right is working over time and spending many millions to overturn any progressive legislation that exists in this country. Then we have Manchin in WV.....a popular governor. He was expected to be a shoo in in the WV senate race. Why isn't he? Because Obama opposes hill top coal mining. Miller in Alaska, who has a growing and commanding lead, wants to open the ANWR and start drilling there so that after the federal gov't fails [his words, not mine], Alaska will have control over its own resources. Miller is so far right its breath taking and you, an Alaskan, go blithely along wondering why Obama gave up on the public option. Do you think Alaska is an anachronism and the lower 48 is solid blue? How do you explain such high expectations for Obama when you come from a state that has produced the likes of Miller and Palin? Yet you, Greenwald and others refuse to accept the reality that the US is not left of center, let alone a liberal utopia. And you want Obama to rule as if he has a liberal mandate. The insanity of that thinking is mind boggling. I can understand Greenwald....he's trying to make a name for himself but you? I wish the US was a liberal country. However, I accept the reality that its somewhat closer to GW Bush than it is to Obama, and its quite aways from where I sit. My hope was that a popular president like Obama could move the country a little more to the left, but that now is in doubt. How can he when the left inartfully stombles to stand behind him?

To: koan who wrote (83856)	10/6/2010 6:47:16 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

On a personal note, my wife had to quit her own business and take part time work(minimum wage) just to GET health insurance. The State of HI insurance commissioner's personal assistant laughed(sardonically) when i called about getting her insurance with pre-existing conditions. "Oh the insurers are required to give it to you but no one can afford it since there is no cap on the rate they charge," he told me, "plus, they will grind their gears and it will take months and months to process your application. The best thing to do is get a ob that already has a policy in place." So she finally got Kaiser and after badgering the intake girls for a week she finally got her initial appointment---a month from now. If she's lucky, then she can schedule an appointment for the internal doc who will then schedule her to see the specialist she needs to see! Estimated time to see the doc she needs to see if 4 months if she's lucky but Kaiser said 6 months to be safe. Yeah, Obamacare is a huge success..... ====================================== POLL: Dislike of healthcare law crosses party lines, 1 in 4 Dems want repeal By Bob Cusack - 10/06/10 05:55 AM ET Healthcare reform is hurting the reelection chances of freshman Democrats in the House, according to The Hill/ANGA poll. A majority of voters in key battleground districts favor repeal of the legislative overhaul Congress passed this year. President Obama predicted in the spring that the new law would become popular as people learned more about it. But the poll shows Republicans strongly oppose it, independents are wary of it and a surprising number of Democrats also want it overturned. Republicans have vowed to repeal the law if they take control of Congress, and the findings of Mark Penn, who led Penn Schoen Berland’s polling team, show that healthcare is a major issue for voters this year. When asked if they wanted the legislation repealed, 56 percent of voters in the surveyed districts said yes. “Only Democrats were opposed to repeal (23 percent to 64 percent),” Penn said. “Undecided voters wanted the healthcare law repealed by 49 percent to 27 percent.” In each district, a majority of those surveyed said they want the controversial law gone. Sixty-five percent back repeal in Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick’s (D-Ariz.) district, while only 27 percent oppose such an effort. Kirkpatrick voted for healthcare reform. Fifty-nine percent of those polled in Rep. Debbie Halvorson’s (D-Ill.) district back a repeal, with 29 percent against. More than one in four Democrats polled also favor repeal. Halvorson was a late yes vote on healthcare reform and is now 18 points behind her Republican challenger. Republicans say they will “repeal and replace” Obama’s health law, although they privately acknowledge that eradicating it will not be possible until they control the White House. Still, The Hill/ANGA poll suggests that the GOP attacks against what they call “ObamaCare” may be working. Independent voters, who strongly supported Obama’s presidential bid, have a negative view of his most significant domestic policy achievement. Rep. Harry Teague (D-N.M.) voted no on the healthcare overhaul and that position is consistent with his district, where 49 percent of Democrats favor repeal and 46 percent oppose it. Sixty-one percent of independents in Teague’s district back a repeal. Teague is trailing in his race with former Rep. Steve Pearce (R-N.M.) by four percentage points, the poll found. Penn said, “I was most surprised at the strong discontent with healthcare [reform]. I thought that there was continued discontent but that it had moderated from what we’re seeing in these districts.” He added, “Most people actually favor repeal of the healthcare legislation, and that included 54 percent of the independents. So outside of the Democratic Party, healthcare legislation has come out as a net negative.” Of the 12 districts polled, only one fell within the margin of error on repeal. Forty-four percent support repeal while 41 percent oppose it in Rep. Mary Jo Kilroy’s (D-Ohio) district. Kilroy backed healthcare reform and is 9 points down in her race against Republican Steve Stivers. Rep. Kathy Dahlkemper’s (D-Pa.) decision to back healthcare reform is hobbling her. In his summary of findings, Penn writes that “57 percent of respondents [in the district] believe that the healthcare legislation … should be repealed. Undecided voters feel this way by a margin of 45 percent to 33 percent.” The Hill/ANGA poll finds that Dahlkemper is trailing 13 points behind her Republican challenger. Republicans and independents in Rep. Dina Titus’s (D-Nev.) district fit the same pattern, only more so. Almost two-thirds of independents there want the law scrapped. Titus, who voted yes on reform, is in a tight race against Republican Joe Heck. Rep. Frank Kratovil (D-Md.) voted against reform, and that appears to be helping his reelection bid. Kratovil is only three points behind his GOP challenger in a district where nearly one in three Democrats back repeal. The Hill/ANGA poll surveyed 4,809 likely voters via phone interviews from Sept. 25 through Sept. 30 in 12 competitive congressional districts. The margin of error was plus or minus 1.4 percent, with the margins being higher in subgroups. Emily Goodin contributed to this report.