To: MJ who wrote (92370 ) 10/7/2010 8:17:56 AM From: lorne 1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224717 Not Marine material – not even close -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thursday October 07, 2010 As a retired Marine, who served three and a quarter years as a Marine recruiter, recruiting both enlisted Marines as well as recruiting officer candidates out of eastern Virginia, I know for a fact, as a trained and experienced professional, the original "certification of live birth," which first appeared on the Daily Kos and was taken from that site and put on Obama's campaign website, before he was selected as the Democrat candidate, was in fact a photoshopped fraudulent document. This was provable by examining the differences in the special backgrounds embossed and printed on official document paper, showing, even visible on a computer monitor, the obvious alterations made to the document. Since that time, a different "certification of live birth," again, not a legal document, but one commonly given to families has been brought to recruiter's offices, requiring recruiters such as myself to get out a "permission slip" we had stacks of, get it signed by the applicant, and personally stand in line in Richmond, Va., at the Department of Vital Statistics, turn in the permission slip and pay the $5 copy fee for a state-certified document, signed by the boss at the department, embossed with the state seal and complete with all the information, including doctor or midwife name, date, time of delivery and full signature attesting to the truth, specifically, and also signed by at least one witness not related to the family of the born child. All of these facts had to be on the certificate in order for me to even talk at length to an applicant. Once I had completed a "package" for enlistment, a process which required some two hours of paperwork by the applicant, including a full and complete FBI security form, some six pages of all the applicant's personal history going back to entry in school and including all the schools attended, and teachers' names, I had about six hours of work to take his work and complete out the full package. I know for a fact that given the associations of Obama's that are all commonly known, just Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn alone on the security form would disqualify Obama from entering the service, any of them, even as an enlisted, because just those two names of domestic terrorists, as listed by the FBI, were more than enough to disqualify him. One of those people alone was sufficient to keep him out. When you add in Jeremiah Wright, his election as an Illinois senator as a member of "The New Party" and the literally dozens of known communist agitators, the recruiting commander who forwarded the package out of the district would have been given an a---chewing, just for not disqualifying him on his own authority, based on the written requirements in the Recruiting Manual. John McClain