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To: koan who wrote (83929)	10/8/2010 1:33:06 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

<<In any case, Obama is the best liberals have been able to come up with in the last 30 years. We need to live in the present, not the past>> My point is that it can be done. The Kennedy's ordered troops to force integration in the south and Bobby Kennedy was very liberal. He was our hope to get out of Viet Nam. JFK was pragmatic, but left of center. As well durign the Cuban missle crises he over ruled the military. JFK and Bobby Kenendy would have left Aghanistan, and even ordering troopps it the south would have been relected. They were also ready to get rid of Hoover and were working on massive new social programs. All liberal ideas. It is my understanding Obama is simply not that liberal. Fine.....the Kennedys were liberal. Johnson was liberal. McGovern was liberal. So what happened to the so call liberal consensus. It died a bad death. Stop holding onto something that didn't have longevity.

To: koan who wrote (83929)	10/8/2010 2:26:33 PM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is the poster child for corporate corruption of our electoral system. This year alone the Chamber has pledged to spend $75 million on ads attacking candidates who don't meekly bow down to the biggest and wealthiest corporate interests. However, an explosive new report by the Center for American Progress reveals that some of that corporate cash might be coming from foreign entities, which would be a federal crime. There is already entirely too much corporate cash spent on our elections. It's intolerable that our democracy would be further undermined by illegal donations from foreign interests. That is why we are joining our friends at MoveOn in asking Attorney General Eric Holder and the Justice Department to open an investigation immediately. Click here to automatically sign our petition and tell the DOJ to investigate the U.S. Chamber of Commerce immediately. act.credoaction.com The Chamber of Commerce denies that it uses foreign money in any way that's illegal, but the Center for American Progress has documented how the Chamber aggressively raises money outside the United State from foreign entities — including state-run companies in Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, India and Russia — and deposits that money into the same general fund used to fund the Chamber's political program. Because of the Chamber's tax status as a trade organization, it is able to shield most of its financial information from the public. So without a government investigation, all we have is the Chamber's woefully insufficient word that it is abiding by the law. Given the stakes of this election, we cannot settle for nothing more than "Trust us" from an organization with such a huge credibility problem. And we cannot wait as this issue winds its way through a Federal Elections Commission rendered slow and toothless by its Republican members. That is why we are calling on the Department of Justice to immediately move to investigate this explosive charge. Tell the DOJ: Investigate the U.S. Chamber of Commerce immediately. Click here to automatically add your name. Thank you for working for a better world. Matt Lockshin, Campaign Manager CREDO Action from Working Assets