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Pastimes : The Justa and Lars Honors Bob Brinker Investment Club Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: marc ultra who wrote (5690)10/12/2010 8:30:19 PM
From: Boca_PETE1 Recommendation  Respond to of 10065
 
Thanks for your views, marc. I greatly appreciate them.

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To: marc ultra who wrote (5690)10/12/2010 10:24:48 PM
From: Investor23 Recommendations  Respond to of 10065
 
RE: "The bottom line though is the choices for money are limited. CDs and Treasuries pay next to nothing."

This summary of today's 3-year note auction substantiates your statement:

Description: 3-Year Note
Term: 3-Year
Series: AD-2013
Interest Rate: 0-1/2%
High Yield: 0.569%
Price: $99.795046
Allotted at High: 45.87%
Accrued Interest*: None
Total Tendered**: $94,554,121
Total Accepted**: $32,281,265
Issue Date: 10/15/2010
Dated Date: 10/15/2010
Original Issue Date: 10/15/2010
Maturity Date: 10/15/2013
CUSIP: 912828PB0

I refuse to tie my money up for 3 years at 0.569% interest.

Best wishes,

I2



To: marc ultra who wrote (5690)10/16/2010 5:05:48 PM
From: marc ultra2 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 10065
 
Is perceived interest rate risk reaching critical levels? So far those who ignored conventional logic that interest rates would rise have been rewarded by nice gains on Treasury funds and things like VFIIX as well as corporate bond funds.

I include myself in those who assumed interest rates were likely to rise or at least concern that they would rise would increase.
I didn't get hurt for being wrong because the floating rate note funds I have in the fixed income money I handle have done fine but as it turned out I would have also done OK in something with more interest rate risk (and in some cases a little lower expense ratio).

I think the odds are increasing that interest rate risk may become more of an issue going forward. We now have the Fed targeting higher inflation rather than lower inflation. We also just had a bunch of rather mediocre at best Treasury auctions. On Friday we saw VFIIX e.g. falling 4 cents.

I'm not telling anyone to panic and get out of conservative fixed income investments particularly those with low duration but I am happy I'm positioned in a way to not get hurt if rising interest rates or concern about it starts having more of an effect on things like most quality bond funds.

There's also the way Bob said you can handle things if you're overly worried about interest rate risks which is to set a mental stop loss and just say if the NAV of my fund falls below a certain pre-determined level you can sell then and avoid any further large fall in NAV. There is of course also the CD option to preserve capital though one probably doesn't want to get stuck in any long-term CD that locks in a low rate.