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To: XiaoYao who wrote (14026)	11/10/1997 11:13:00 PM
From: micromike	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24154

It's funny how the big boys like IBM or Oracle are still full steam ahead. How's MS's top secret Java programs coming along? Are they experiencing problems? No Comment GOOD. They should be complaining big time but since it's top secret they have to keep their yap shut which is a twist for them. Maybe it's better that way. By the way here is the recent Corel plans. It appears Yahoo's news is abit outdated. Maybe they got the article from MSN. Corel plans Java-based NC software news.com Canadian software maker Corel, not content to stand by while competitors tout Java strategies, plans to revive its own Java-based products for Network Computers. --- Mike

To: XiaoYao who wrote (14026)	11/10/1997 11:41:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24154

I am not a Microsoft hater zdnet.com Too much other good stuff to post to repeat myself, YuanQuing. This is John Dodge, in PC Week. Here's an organization with more corporate and personal wealth than the national treasury, and it doesn't have the courage to confront its adversaries directly. Steve Ballmer and Bill Gates could go toe-to-toe with Ralph Nader all day. Instead, Microsoft tiptoes--some would say sneaks--around "educating" other consumer groups about all the good it has done for the software industry and the dangers of Nader's position. Wimpy. Very wimpy! Or, we have Nathan Myrvold's "It's Nixon era dirty tricks!". Or, we have Bill himself saying, "We'll fold if we can't do our stupid OS/browser integration to kill Netscape!". What a bunch of weiners. PC companies feel the same way. They fear Microsoft, but when is that outside the norm of ethical business practices? People fear lots of things--bosses, competitors, spouses, cops and columnists. A Microsoft official sent me E-mail expressing surprise that I would speak at a conference of "Microsoft haters." I'm more surprised and disappointed that Microsoft, hardened by a mounting persecution complex and appetite for defiance, is not speaking, too. Answer your critics. Be forthright. Microsoft be forthright? Isn't that against company policy? Like, it's unethical to be ethical in business and all that? Microsoft just has to embrace and demolish Java too, right? Cheers, Dan.

To: XiaoYao who wrote (14026)	11/10/1997 11:54:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24154

Seeker, Applix, Clarify choose Java news.com Oops, guess they missed the other Java bashing stories. Meanwhile, Corel plans Java-based NC software news.com So they haven't quite given up yet. Cheers, Dan.