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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (84232)	10/25/2010 4:03:30 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

The next time a winger is honest will be the first time, and that person will no longer be qualified to be a winger. Study: Public employees better-educated, more skilled, earn less Thursday, April 29, 2010 at 8:00 AM by Laura Northrup in State Employees Are workers in the public sector really overpaid and too comfy for their own good? According to a new study from the Center for State and Local Government Excellence and National Institute on Retirement Security, not really. Analysis of Bureau of Labor Statistics data showed that state and local government employees are generally better-educated than their counterparts working in the private sector, but earn less overall, even including benefits such as health care and pension plans. From the study: Public and private workforces differ in important ways. For instance, jobs in the public sector require much more education on average than those in the private sector. Employees in state and local sectors are twice as likely as their private sector counterparts to have a college or advanced degree. Wages and salaries of state and local employees are lower than those for private sector workers with comparable earnings determinants (e.g., education). State employees typically earn 11 percent less; local workers earn 12 percent less. Over the last 20 years, the earnings for state and local employees have generally declined relative to comparable private sector employees. The pattern of declining relative compensation remains true in most of the large states we examined, although some state-level variation exists. Benefits (e.g., pensions) comprise a greater share of employee compensation in the public sector. State and local employees have lower total compensation than their private sector counterparts. On average, total compensation is 6.8 percent lower for state employees and 7.4 percent lower for local workers, compared with comparable private sector employees. The study predicts future difficulty recruiting new public servants as the economy recovers and the private sector beckons. Does this seem plausible in New York? Looking to read the entire study? Read it here. blog.timesunion.com -- To return to a previous topic, here's another argument, this one from Ezra Klein, that (a) public employees don't make more than private employees, but (b) we all have a stake in public employees being better paid. ---------------- Public employees don't make more than private employees There seems to be a lot of jealousy toward public employees out there, most of it powered by an impression that public employees get more money for less work. But via Kevin Drum comes this table from the Economic Policy Institute, which suggests that this just isn't true Message 26825997

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (84232)	10/25/2010 5:56:52 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

Will you please acknowledge your error? Nope, I will not. This is from one of your fav think tanks, CATO. You know they have thrown in McDonald workers into the mix to bring down private sector incomes. And you suck it up like its candy. Very sad, jim. Jim, let me make this very clear to you. Your boys....the ones you love so much......are empty suits. Their analyses are empty, their economic policies are empty, their governance is empty. Everything is geared to keeping people from advancing, protecting the rich, and from money being spent to improve the country with the notable exception of defense. And that exception exists because they are paranoid as hell while owning most of the defense industry in this country. You've got nothing. Be true to yourself and admit you are money hungry R who wants to overthrow the gov't while keeping minorities in their place. You would vote for Sharron Angle if you could but you will be the first one to cash your SS check. ;-)

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (84232)	10/26/2010 1:42:08 AM
From: sylvester80	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

Conservatives in Italy ban miniskirts, sandcastles, sunbathing and everything else fun Get ready for the same here in the U.S. if the wingnut teabagger conservatives take over with outlawing masturbation, evolution, miniskirts, sunbathing, revealing clothing etc.... welcome to the new Iran where conservative wacko mullahs want to tell you how to live your life... wave bye bye to democracy and freedom... Italians Announce Plans to Ban Miniskirts, Sandcastles and Everything Else Fun By: Claire Mc Cormack newsfeed.time.com Who needs SPF 50 when you're wearing trousers? Ladies, packing for the Mediterranean sunshine just got a whole lot trickier: one Italian town today announced plans to ban the miniskirt. The Italian seaside city of Castellammare di Stabia is adamant that if they outlaw the mini along with all other revealing clothing they will improve what the mayor calls standards of public decency. Mayor Luigi Bobbio said the regulations would help "restore urban decorum and facilitate better civil co-existence". Serial mini offenders could face a fine between $35 and $696. Following the mini regulations Mayor Bobbio is also pushing proposals to prohibit sunbathing, playing football in public places, and blasphemy because he believes they encourage "rowdy, unruly behavior." Mayor Bobbio has the blessing of the local parish church, "I think it's the right decision, It's also a way of combating the rise in sexual harassment," said Don Paulo Cecere, a comment that will undoubtedly raise a few eyebrows in light of recent events. Castellammare di Stabia is the latest city to incorporate a series of additional powers inherited from Conservative Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's government, in attempts to fight crime and confront anti social behavior. Other outrageous regulations include kissing in cars, building sandcastles and mowing your lawn at the weekend.