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To: Doug R who wrote (7452)11/11/1997 10:20:00 AM
From: Tim Oliver  Respond to of 79378
 
Doug, I have a few observations that I would like your feedback on
concerning the SPX:

From 1950 to 1965 (15 yrs.) the SPX appears to have grown a little
over 500% followed by the period from 1965 to 1980 (15 yrs.) of
little growth at all. From 1980 to 1996 (16 yrs.) the SPX appears to
have grown about 500% again. If the pattern continues, the SPX
would be at the top of a flat period that would extend until about 2010
with a probable 33% drop to the bottom of the channel.

As I look at the SPX adjusted for inflation over the same period, the
flat period between 1965-1980 dropped significantly, indicating that
excessive inflation may have temporarily "stalled" the market.
Assuming that's the case, the current market may not be overpriced
assuming that inflation will stay under control.

The chart I used to see the inflation adjusted SPX is dent.gif at
www.geocities.com. The chart is overlayed on a shaded background
of the GDP. I think you've referred to this chart recently. The
GDP in the next 15 years is projected to grow much faster than the
trend from 1920 would indicate. The assumption made in the overlay
is that the SPX will grow significantly over the next several years.
If the trend were to continue in the GDP however, the growth in the
SPX appears to be extended and will likely flatten somewhat after
inflation. Any idea where the extremely bullish GDP came from?

Finally, in the past 5 years, the market seems to have advanced far
more when the 30 yr. bond drops from a high down to about 6%
than when it hits 6% and starts moving back up like it appears ready
to do now (between now and January). Since I don't have a longer
chart for the 30 yr. bond (I used yahoo), I wasn't able to confirm this
pattern over a longer period of time.

The long bond cycle, the 15 year SPX cycle, the inflation cycle,
and the GDP cycle (not the bullish projection but the trend since
1920) seem to correspond to a poor to mediocre SPX environment
over the next 10-15 years. All of these things seem to point to
increased inflation coming up soon and continuing for several years.
I know that's contrary to conventional wisdom of the Fed's stated
goal, but aren't major market cycle turns sometimes based on the
things that investors are NOT betting on?

Any thoughts?

Tim



To: Doug R who wrote (7452)11/11/1997 11:46:00 AM
From: ivan solotaroff  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 79378
 
ACTM!!!!

DOOOOUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!! HEEEEELLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!

Think I've got a PGDCEB on the line here. Awaiting confirmation to start reeling her in.

Ivan