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To: Solon who wrote (9750)	11/11/2010 4:02:01 PM
From: one_less	1 Recommendation Respond to of 69300

Excellent discussion Barker repeatedly proclaims there are no other (non-Creator God) NBEs. However, ideas, at least as evidenced by the archetypes of particular ideas, do not have beginnings. We find evidence of this when one culture realizes the meaning of an idea, then that culture passes away and is forgotten. When a new culture arises it may recognize the same idea anew and without influence from the previous culture, demonstrating how the idea exists without having begun only when the specific culture began to give it recognition. Barker further uses the term real to represent temporal things; where as, ideas are real and often are used to represent some form of phenomenal reality, suggesting they do in fact transcend from a realm of non-physical reality and into the realm of physical reality. Infinity is another issue he drops the ball on to some extent. I like how he deals with the 'Big Bang'. "The Big Bang is not an "event." An event takes place in time and space: it needs a context. Since time and space are a part of the universe itself, calling the Big Bang an "event" would place it in a context beyond itself, which amounts to a presumption of transcendence." The Big Bang can only be an event if it occurs within the context of an existing Universe.