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To: Valuepro who wrote (291137)	11/12/2010 6:00:20 PM
From: joseffy	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

He is licking his lips waiting for the next Fort Hood type massacre.

To: Valuepro who wrote (291137)	11/12/2010 6:10:22 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Respond to of 306849

As I said, and as you are won't to appreciate, the incident between the U.S. and Israel over the USS Liberty was an isolated occurrence. 9/11 was not a single event, now, was it, nor is it representative of a day existing as an anomaly. It is, instead, the main symbol of a movement that is repeatedly attempting to damage, if not destroy the United States, and any way of life that of which it does not approve. ...and you try to compare that to Israel attacking the USS Liberty? Amazing! --- Isolated? Israel has been caught spying on the US, meddling and controlling our politics and media, etc. The Muslims, even the radical Muslims have never conceived of attacking the US prior to our blatant imperialism on THEIR sovereign territory. If you can disprove this statement, have at it. As for 911, we are still awaiting proof of who was actually behind the event. meanwhile, 10 years later, we are still seeing NO END to an illegal invasion. Shall i remind you that the Taliban offered to give up OBL prior to the invasion if we would provide proof of his guilt in 911? Instead we decimated Afghanistan and have crushed the civilian population. When is your blood lust satiated? +++ Afghan Transition Date Now 2014, Officials Agree 'US Forces Will Be Fighting in Afghanistan for at Least Four More Years' by Jason Ditz, November 11, 2010 Email This \| Print This \| Share This \| Antiwar Forum When President Obama announced his massive December 2009 escalation of the Afghan War, it was sold to the American public with a pledge that it would be a short-term surge and would usher in the beginning of an exit from the country in July 2011. The date was abandoned within hours of its announcement, though officials occasionally still referenced it now and again through the summer. The date is officially dead though, and the new, likewise largely fictional “drawdown” date for Afghanistan is 2014. “The devastating truth is that US forces will be fighting in Afghanistan for at least four more years,” noted Council on Foreign Relations Presient Emeritus Leslie Gelb. The emphasis on this comment should be the “at least.” Because while the US kept up the pretense of the 2011 date for longer than most, many NATO nations had already been trumpeting the 2014 date, and that date too has come under attack from a number of officials who expect the war to last well into the next decade. But so long as officials insist on couching the drawdown date in terms of an elusive military victory, from 2011 to 2014 to 2020 these dates are little more than hopeful guesses from officials who refuse to notice that the war has already been lost. If one ties the withdrawal to the admission that the war is not successful from elected officials, it could well last forever.

To: Valuepro who wrote (291137)	11/12/2010 11:02:24 PM
From: Skeeter Bug	Respond to of 306849

>>It is, instead, the main symbol of a movement that is repeatedly attempting to damage, if not destroy the United States, and any way of life that of which it does not approve.<< on this we agree. having said that, who, EXACTLY, has taken your freedoms away? 1. who took away your right to private communications? 2. who took away your 2nd amendment? 3. who took away your dignity by molesting your child in front of you and whomever else is in the TSA line? 4. who is trying to legalize the extra-judicial kidnapping, detention of american citizens? 5. did bin laden sign the patriot act? 6. is bin laden trying to roll out STATE sanctioned child molestation all over the place (court houses, football games, etc?) who is doing this, Vp? once you answer that question, you will know who hated our previous freedoms and who is using 911 to destroy america. and you will know who the real enemy is... Al Qaeda Leader Dined for the Pentagon Just Months Soon after 9/11 bbcnewsblog.com al-awlaki is tied to every major american terrorist act in the last 10 years - and feels right at home hob nobbing with the pentagon brass at dinner. the pentagon's response? find out who DARED to leak the TRUTH to the serfs. who is destroying the american food supply? youtube.com 4 parts. who is covering for the criminal international banking cartel? who covered for massive mortgage fraud (FBI, 2004), ratings fraud, insurance fraud, tax fraud, several different versions of securities fraud, forgery and misleading the court? who is bankrupting america? hint - it ain't bin laden. wake up before the true "phantom menace" completely destroys america. If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. James Madison "Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY." --Goering at the Nuremberg Trials “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning. The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debt.” Henry Ford If the American people ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children will wake up homeless. I sincerely believe the banking institutions (having the issuing power of money) are more dangerous to liberty than standing armies. My zeal against these institutions was so warm and open at the establishment of the Bank of the United States (Hamilton's foreign system), that I was derided as a maniac by the tribe of bank mongers who were seeking to filch from the public. —Thomas Jefferson “"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government." - Henry Kissinger in an address to the Bilderberger meeting at Evian, France, May 21, 1992. (in an address to the Bilderberger organization meeting at Evian, France, on May 21, 1991. As transcribed from a tape recording made by one of the Swiss delegates. )” They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --ben franklin who is selling safety at the expense of liberty as a spite to benjamin franklin? and read 1984 to get to know emmanuel goldstein. these freedom thiefs aren't even creative - but apparently they don't need to be.

To: Valuepro who wrote (291137)	11/12/2010 11:42:34 PM
From: Skeeter Bug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Vp, i forgot to mention that the politicos understand COMPLETELY how TERROR AGAINST AMERICA BENEFITS POLITICIANS... Ex-Clinton strategist: Obama needs event ‘similar’ to OKC to ‘reconnect’ with voters rawstory.com politicians also know how to murder americans in order to achieve their policy objectives... General Hugh Shelton: Clinton cabinet member wanted to let Saddam shoot down a plane as a pretext to war deskofbrian.com this is not the time to bury our heads in the sand and soak up the propaganda. we have to be aware. hll, smart people knew the news was complete sht over 100 hundred years ago! Early in life I had noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in a newspaper. George Orwell Advertisements contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper. Thomas Jefferson the war on terror is a joke. the borders are wide open. 26k people have been murdered along the border due to an out of control drug war that doesn't concern anyone. the TSA allows illegal aliens to fly planes. the underwear bomber was placed on that plane by US intelligence... they probably made sure he didn't go through any screening whatsoever. pacificfreepress.com haskellfamily.blogspot.com BIG BROTHER had previously ordered naked body scanners and needed a selling point. chertoff ordered billions of these things... and now is running the company and had billions on the line. the PENTAGON DINNER GUEST sure did time his attack to maximize chertoff's and other BIG BROTHER insiders profits. how nice.