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To: Solon who wrote (10010)	11/18/2010 2:31:47 AM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

"So, instead of the grace she rejected, she gets perfect justice." You are having an emotional breakdown over someone receiving just recompense for moral crimes? Obviously you agree with the natural intuition that people who commit moral crimes ought to be punished, since you are always moralizing and hysterically condemning what you consider to be the evil actions of others. The BIG difference between you and I is that I can ground that moral stance by pointing to a transcendent standard while you can only point to your navel and your relative, irrational, emotional feelings. "Do you think anything or anyone is so cruel and stupid as to dig up a coffin of someone dead for decades and start burning and torturing the empty and dead matter that they find remaining?" I have no idea what you are talking about and neither does anyone else but it's obvious that you have no reasonable response to the idea that people who commit moral crimes deserve to be punished so you have to erect straw men to knock down instead. "And you wonder why freethinkers shake their heads in disgust." No, I don't wonder at all. It's clear that your true problem is moral, not intellectual.

To: Solon who wrote (10010)	11/18/2010 2:45:18 AM
From: average joe	Respond to of 69300

Now now now, rules and rulers must be obeyed. I know this is true because gregoree thinks he represents Christ and he found it in the bible. Mao Tse Tung, Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler you just don't question why when the eternal salvation of your soul is at stake. Message 26099636 "Which Government is that?? All Governments, all rulers. Romans 13: 1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4 For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. 6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor."