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To: average joe who wrote (10022)11/18/2010 4:57:47 PM
From: Solon1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
"Sweep aside those parasites of subsidized classrooms, who live on the profits of the mind of others and proclaim that man needs no morality, no values, no code of behavior. They, who pose as scientists and claim that man is only an animal, do not grant him inclusion in the law of existence they have granted to the lowest of insects. They recognize that every living species has a way of survival demanded by its nature, they do not claim that a fish can live out of water or that a dog can live without its sense of smell—but man, they claim, the most complex of beings, man can survive in any way whatever, man has no identity, no nature, and there’s no practical reason why he cannot live with his means of survival destroyed, with his mind throttled and placed at the disposal of any orders they might care to issue.

Sweep aside those hatred-eaten mystics, who pose as friends of humanity and preach that the highest virtue man can practice is to hold his own life as of no value. Do they tell you that the purpose of morality is to curb man’s instinct of self-preservation? It is for the purpose of self-preservation that man needs a code of morality. The only man who desires to be moral is the man who desires to live."

Ayn Rand



To: average joe who wrote (10022)12/6/2010 5:06:11 PM
From: one_less1 Recommendation  Respond to of 69300
 
"Very good point and completely in line with what Jefferson said. Binding, hypothecating and encumbering future generation comes with a very high price."

Jefferson called upon enlightenment philosophers to compose his treatment of England when he wrote ..."

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."

In one sense I find it unfortunate that he let this statement lie where it was, because in doing so he effectively and I am sure unintentionally ended the enlightenment movement at it's dawning moment. I am confident, were I to ask most high school graduates what unalienable rights are they would be able to list the three mentioned above as if that were definitional but that is inaccurate. The definition is at a higher level of conceptualization "Unalienable: incapable of being alienated, that is, sold and transferred." Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, page 1523:" ..."Inalienable rights: Rights which are not capable of being surrendered or transferred without the consent of the one possessing such rights. Morrison v. State, Mo. App., 252 S.W.2d 97, 101."

Jefferson said "...that among these are life liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Jefferson was pleading a particular case with a particular application being careful to clarify for us he intended these rights to be considered as a subset (among these) of a much longer list which could and should be drawn upon as circumstances unravel for us. Where are the enlightenment leaders of our generation? I'm not sure 'leader' is even an applicable since the term has become a euphamism of 'politician,' which has become synonymous with 'sell out.'