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Politics : The Obama - Clinton Disaster -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (41622)	11/28/2010 10:02:21 PM
From: Wayners	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 103300

That isn't scheduled to happen until the system starts taking in less in current FICA taxes then it has going out in current FICA benefits... not slated to happen for a few years yet.) Already happening now. Bond redemptions are either paid with printed dollars or higher taxes or out of other Govt Programs. The day has already arrived. Don't believe it? Here is a link: 9wsyr.com By the way, redemptions are what finally brought down Bernie Madoff's Ponzi Scheme. Same thing is happening to Social Security. To support that Social Security is actually a pyramid scheme (SCAM), I compared the SSA and the Madoff fraud case. Here's where they share common ground: 1. Legitimate investment vehicles take investor funds and invest them in businesses, real estate, and other assets. These investments are intend to generate returns for shareholders. Madoff didn't do this. He paid off early investors with cash from subsequent investors. Investment assets were never purchased. Similarly, Social Security has no investments. It pays retirees benefits with cash deposited by younger workers. What’s worse is that Social Security has taken in a surplus of funds over the years. Instead of investing the extra funds legitimately, the government spent it on other programs. Now Social Security is completely unfunded -- something that's illegal for companies to do but not the government. 2. Madoff's early investors received excellent returns, which averaged 12 percent to 14 percent a year. Similarly, Social Security provided excellent returns to its early participants. The first person to receive monthly Social Security benefits was a woman named Ida May Fuller. She paid $24.75 total into the Social Security system over a three year period, and received $22,889 during her lifetime. Even Madoff was not so egregious to provide such a large return to his early investors. 3. Each quarter, Madoff sent fraudulent monthly statements to his investors. These statements were works of fiction -- there were no assets backing these investments. Similarly, each year all Americans get a statement from the SSA. This statement too is a work of fiction. There are no real assets backing the annuity that's promised to us. Furthermore, Congress and the President can merely change the law and that promised annuity will vanish. The SSA's statement should include the same disclaimer that's required to be on all investment prospectus statements: “Actual results may vary.” In the final months of Madoff’s fraud, there were some $7 billion in investor redemptions. Madoff frantically tried to raise enough money to fund these redemptions, but to no avail. Finally, he confessed to authorities and the fraud was revealed. Now you see that Social Security is being subjected to similar redemptions, e.g. people taking the money early, because they KNOW that there will be NO MONEY LATER! Take what you can now. So obvious and been obvious to me for 20 years when I was in High School.