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To: koan who wrote (295364)	12/3/2010 12:43:40 PM
From: Valuepro	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

"First, I don't spit on anyone! My brother went to Vietnam and was hurt real badly." I now recall you having said that once before. Tell him, "Welcome home," and "Thank you for your service". "Yes, I see Macarthyism rising and I call it the rightwing." You are making an inappropriate generalization as there are gradients of Right, just are there are of Left. "I would remind you Joe Macrthy was a Republican right winger, as was the John birch society." Another generalization lumping all of those on the Right with extremists. By the way, the Birchers are still around as an organized group, MacCarhyites are not. "The liberals have been the party of freedom and humanity." Liberals, in their zeal to make everyone equal, are blind to the damage they do. ...too many holding onto outdated Existentialist ideals while trying to find themselves. Having said that, some Liberals know what damage they are doing and they want more. They see it as the only way to take over. That is, they want to kill entirely the system they detest, and hope to be the only ones left to rebuild society, and to do so in their image. Moreover, you can't make everyone equal without imposing severe limits on freedom. There is nothing humane in that! BTW, ensuring that everyone is allowed equal opportunity to effect their own place in life is about as humane as you can get. Fostering a psychology of dependence is not humane. It puts people in virtual cages, robbing them of motivation and personal responsibility. "It was the liberals who fought (the conservatives)on salvery, helping women get the vote, fought segregation and are now fighting gay bashing." Again, you generalizing and distorting history. Are you saying the Civil War issue of slavery was one of a Liberal cause? Is that why the North fought secession? Are you saying the south was controlled by Republicans? Geez! Helping women get the vote? What does does that mean? If I carry my professors books between his office and his classroom, I am an adjunct professor of whatever field as I helped. I don't get your meaning, after all Washington was politically divided when the rights act was passed in 1919, with Dems having a firm control of the House, and Republicans the Senate. Hey, was is not Southern Democrats who fought integration so furiously. You know, I happened to have lived in Montgomery, AL during the Freedom Rider riots.* The rioters were not Republicans. When have Republican every been associated with riots? Was it not Liberals and democrats on both sides during the DNC riots in Chicago in '68? Geez, again! "Who is fighting DADT!? Who did not vote for the 64 civil rights act! Almost all conservatives!" Gay bashing? Hm, well, that sounds line another generalization. I happen to know that the Liberals most hated news source, Fox News, is very accepting and sympathetic to gay issues. I know one of their key people who is not only gay, but happens also to be their lead in reporting on gay issues. I also know gay Republicans. So, geez, one more time! As to the '64 Civil Rights Act, YOUR FACTS ARE WRONG! spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk GEEZ! "In every single instance it was conservatives we opposed!" Yeah, Right! VP in AZ * I lived in AL for 3.5 years and went to high school there as the Freedom Rider Riots were going on. I went to school with kids who bragged about their older brothers and fathers being there, wielding sawed off baseball bats. ...not a pleasant experience for one coming from an international school overseas, never having before had personal experience with racism, though I had lived in very mixed populations to that time. I knew almost no Republicans in AL back then, so I know first hand of what I speak.

To: koan who wrote (295364)	12/3/2010 12:48:18 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

I would remind you Joe Macrthy was a Republican right winger, as was the John birch society. The liberals have been the party of freedom and humanity. ___ Just what is so offensive about this statement of core principles koan? ++++++++++++ Core Principles To bring about less government, more responsibility, and — with God’s help — a better world by providing leadership, education, and organized volunteer action in accordance with moral and Constitutional principles. "These United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States … We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness." — Declaration of Independence, 1776 The Declaration of Independence established the independence of both the original 13 American colonies and the United States of America that they together formed a decade later. The Declaration proclaimed that our personal rights come from God, not from government. The John Birch Society endorses the timeless principles of the Declaration of Independence. The Society also labors to warn against and expose the forces that seek to abolish U.S. independence, build a world government, or otherwise undermine our personal liberties and national independence. The ConstitutionRestoring the Constitution "That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed." — Declaration of Independence, 1776 The Constitution of the United States of America instituted the government that secures our God-given rights. The John Birch Society endorses the U.S. Constitution as the foundation of our national government, and works toward educating and activating Americans to abide by the original intent of the Founding Fathers. We seek to awaken a sleeping and apathetic people concerning the designs of those who are working to destroy our constitutional Republic.

To: koan who wrote (295364)	12/3/2010 1:22:52 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Note to “the Left”: Obama Hates You Wed, 12/01/2010 - 01:47 — Paul Street by Paul Street Despite oceans of evidence, many self-described “progressives” still refuse to recognize Barack Obama as the warmongering servant of Wall Street that he is. They continue to hover like flocks of groupies, eager to debase themselves for a politician that despises them. The Left – or what’s left of it – is held in deepest contempt by this president and his handlers. “It is long past time for serious lefties to leave” Obama and his fellow corporate Democrats, “once and for all.” blackagendareport.com