Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : Actual left/right wing discussion -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TimF who wrote (8709)	12/3/2010 7:19:08 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

<<I didn't create any of them, not even as part of a collective effort. Most likely you have not either, certainly not the more major government organizations like the federal and state governments. Look, all we have is democracy, as flawed as it is, to save us from our barbaric inclinations. And a democracy is only as good as the people who reside in said democracy. It is the human condition. By and large our failings as a society are due to our own behavior and nothing else. Amorphous things like Republics and the constitution have many definitions. If you want to see the flaws in this country look at how we treat people. For 100 years after we became a coutnry we allowed slavery, then for another 100 years not one state in the south felt the need to end segregation. We did not give the vote to women until 1919. That is the measure of our failings, not some esoteric psychobable about sticking to the constituion.

To: TimF who wrote (8709)	12/3/2010 8:25:36 PM
From: Lane3	2 Recommendations Respond to of 10087

Indeed, our institutions, including our various governments, are separate entities. Take something like a corporation, a entity recognized legally as a party in and of itself. If you look at labor unions, my favorite example, they are not the people they represent. Labor relations involves three parties, management, labor, and the union. The union has interests of its own as an entity separate and sometimes in conflict with those of its members. Governing bodies do the same thing. How much do they represent us and how much are they self serving?