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To: TimF who wrote (8793)	12/10/2010 1:19:40 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

<<In another context a fair measure of the opposition to the civil rights act of '64, for example Goldwater's opposition to it, seems to have had no connection to bigotry (and to the extent it was based on bigotry or pandering to racists, it seems to have mostly come from the Dems).>> That is purposely misleading. You conservatives do that every time. Try to wash your hands of past bigoty by using the word dem instead of conservative. Opposition to the 1964 civil rights act was nothing but pure bigotry, Goldwater notwithstanding. And it was not dems, it was dixiecrats (conservative dems). I always use the word conservatives because in the south they have few liberals. Both parties are conservative. Here is the vote below. And remember for 100 years not one state in the south had the basic human decency to outlaw segregation. How do you defend that? Southern conservatives against northern moderates and liberals. Read it carefully. By party and region Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states. The original House version: Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7%–93%) Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0%–100%) Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%–6%) Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%–15%) The Senate version: Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5%–95%) Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0%–100%) Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%–2%) Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%–16%)