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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (96633)	12/10/2010 4:33:14 PM
From: Kenneth E. Phillipps	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224744

"Supporters of Social Security should reject the latest deal and tell President Obama to stand behind his own tax cut. This is what presidents are supposed to do." That is the point!

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (96633)	12/10/2010 5:41:12 PM
From: tonto	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224744

President Obama has just added a very big name to the growing list of Democrats backing him on the tax deal he struck with Congress this week: Former president Bill Clinton, a man who Obama said "presided over as good an economy as we've seen in our lifetime." "This will be a significant net plus for the country," Clinton said during a surprise joint appearance with Obama in the press briefing room. The unusual session followed a private meeting between the two presidents in the Oval Office to discuss the economy and other issues. "This is a good bill and I hope my fellow Democrats will approve it," Clinton said of the agreement to extend the Bush-era tax cuts for all taxpayers for two years, continue jobless benefits for the long-term unemployed and cut Social Security payroll taxes next year.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (96633)	12/11/2010 10:23:43 AM
From: chartseer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224744

Am I A hostage yet? Take the payroll limit off of the payroll tax! Remember when your payroll tax was paid up by October and you went home with a few cents more until January? Politicians didn't like the fact you actually saw what it cost you each week. You never saw what it cost your employer but it was the same it costs you each week. comrade chartseer

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (96633)	12/11/2010 12:47:41 PM
From: longnshort	1 Recommendation Respond to of 224744

You think he was humiliated having Clinton do his job right in front of him and doing it better? .... Here’s how the New York Times reported the incident. (Link safe, goes to the Brothers Judd): [ The NYT write-up of this is extraordinarily unflattering to Obama: ] The president stood by Mr. Clinton’s side for several minutes as Mr. Clinton held court in front of the White House logo that often hovered behind him a decade ago. But after Mr. Clinton began taking questions, the current president excused himself, saying that his wife, Michelle, expected Mr. Obama’s presence at one of the many holiday parties that presidents host during the month of December. “I’ve been keeping the first lady waiting,” Mr. Obama said, excusing himself. “I don’t want to make her mad,” Mr. Clinton said. “Please go.” And with that, Mr. Obama departed, leaving Mr. Clinton to continue his extended conversation with the media. [...] Mr. Clinton went on for at least 20 minutes, moving at one point beyond the tax debate and offering his opinion on the administration’s new arms control treaty with Russia and the ongoing crisis in Haiti. [ Why sure, just abdicate and let Clinton be President for a little while. After the press conference did Bill return to the Oval Office to get a little work done while Barry was being chewed out by Michelle for keeping her waiting? Continuing: ] ........ Even before Barry’s Mondo Bizarro moment today, Peggy Noonan writes, “No president has alienated his base the way Obama has:” We have not in our lifetimes seen a president in this position. He spent his first year losing the center, which elected him, and his second losing his base, which is supposed to provide his troops. There isn’t much left to lose! Which may explain Tuesday’s press conference. President Obama was supposed to be announcing an important compromise, as he put it, on tax policy. Normally a president, having agreed with the opposition on something big, would go through certain expected motions. He would laud the specific virtues of the plan, show graciousness toward the negotiators on the other side—graciousness implies that you won—and refer respectfully to potential critics as people who’ll surely come around once they are fully exposed to the deep merits of the plan. Instead Mr. Obama said, essentially, that he hates the deal he just agreed to, hates the people he made the deal with, and hates even more the people who’ll criticize it. His statement was startling in the breadth of its animosity. [ And that was before he walked out of Clinton's press conference doing what he should have done. ] ..... pajamasmedia.com