To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (69451 ) 12/12/2010 11:07:34 PM From: Maurice Winn 3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 220201 If people vote their own value, which they do with Tradable Citizenship, then not many will vote to take opm via the state because that will devalue their share by more than they can get out of the state. In the current system, it's every man for himself and the Devil take the hindmost. When the money is depleted, as in normal tragedy of the commons situations, they'll worry about it then. Meanwhile get while the getting is good because if you don't somebody else will. New Zealand could easily take another million and it wouldn't even make up for those who have left. At 10,000 or 20,000 new citizens per year, that would take 100 years or 50 years. That is a very long time. Heck, even 50,000 a year would be no problem. Those people would NOT be committing crimes. Buying a citizenship then forfeiting it and being sold as body parts would not be a bright idea. People would be inclined to stop criminals because it would make their shares so hugely valuable. Imagine what people would pay to live in a country free of crime which is also really nice. There needs to be a never before in human history change from the individual being the property of the tribe and alpha male, to the tribal assets, including intellectual property and "goodwill", being owned and tradeable by the individual members of the tribe. Francis Fukuyama thought the end of history had arrived with capitalist democracy. He was right but it hadn't arrived because the process is still a work in progress. Then, after that, the really big stuff of history will be on = the development of Cyberspace as a symbiotic "country" based not on land and ocean ownership but on Cyberspace allegiance and mutuality. Mqurice