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To: Oeconomicus who wrote (9087)	12/16/2010 1:55:10 PM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 10087

Jeez, dude. Or perhaps "Jeez, Malaprop"...

To: Oeconomicus who wrote (9087)	12/16/2010 2:47:43 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

<<Jeez, dude. A state managing resources on or under public lands for the public benefit and ending up with huge fiscal reserves as a result does NOT make it a socialist system. An exception to the unfortunately norms of government, perhaps, but socialism, no.>> We now put 50% of all state resource income into the Permanent fund. we sure had to fight the right wing and oil companies to establish that permanent fund. They were totally against it. It was a liberal republican gvoernor and a bunch of yong ad hoc liberal dems who got it through by the skn of our teetha nd giving payola to the oil companies. <<Also, your assertion that Alaska has "no state taxes" is simply wrong. Alaska's corporate income tax is the highest in the nation on a per capita basis, almost twice that of New York as of 2007. In total, from corporate income taxes, various excise taxes, motor vehicle taxes, and various taxes on fishing, mining and other activities, the state collected almost $1.2 billion on FY2007. That's almost $1700 for every man, woman, and child in the state.>> INDIVIDUALS pay no state income taxes. Sure we have some user taxes. $1,700, that is about what we get from the state each year in a permanent fund check-lol. Yes, we tax corporations at the rate they should be taxed-lol. They are making a fortune. 12 Republican legislators have been indicted or convicted of bribs from the oil companies in the last couple of years. Not one Dem!!!!! <Alaska also, as of FY2007, ranked #1 among the states in per capita transfers from the federal government and #2 in per capita state debt, BTW.>> Yes our right wing senators take lots of pork, but they are Republcians, I don't vote for them. I don't know what you consider per capita state debt. We have almost 50 billion in investments and are running budget surpluses. <<More generally, trying to prove anything about government, or even only US state governments, with regard to fiscal and regulatory responsibility based on Alaska is patently absurd. Huge oil resources and the population of Bhutan or Comoros.>> We put 50% of all our state resource income in the permanent fund any state could have done that. Texas, Mississippi, Oklahom, LA, etc. They don't do it as they don't like large government programs. The right wing said the same thing about our permanent fund. <<Lastly, the suggestion that Alaska stands out as being immune to corporate-political entanglements or corruption is a fantasy.>> I said nothing about our not being corrupt. ike I said 123 legislators all Republcians have been indicted and or convicted. This is why we allow little investment in alaska.