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To: one_less who wrote (9153)	12/17/2010 12:32:02 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 10087

(first part) This one.. Darwinian on December 17, 2010 - 9:52am Just heard Sharon Epperson, CNBC's energy correspondent giving the energy news: It is interesting that oil prices have actually held up fairly well. There are a lot on the street talking about the tightening in supply that we are continuing to see globally... Interesting, I was not aware that there was a global tightening of crude oil supplies. At this moment Crude Oil is up thirty cents. Ron P. theoildrum.com Here's the world picture.. energyshortage.org November 14 2010 Submitted by admin on Sun, 11/14/2010 - 10:23. in diesel shortage China: Diesel shortage leads to long lines CHINA'S diesel shortage has paralysed traffic on a pivotal expressway in North-west China, with trucks waiting in long lines to fill their fuel tanks. Truck driver Zhang Manku said he waited for eight hours on Thursday to fill up at a gas station in Ningqiang, a county in Shaanxi province close to Sichuan province. 'I drove into Shaanxi from Sichuan on the Hanning (Hanzhong-Ningqiang) Expressway at 9am and crept along as part of a 20km queue of trucks. It was 5pm when it was my turn.' Gao Xiang, an official with the expressway administration, said more than 1,000 trucks were stranded at the Shaanxi-Sichuan border on Thursday. 'Dozens of road workers were mobilized to divert traffic,' Mr Gao said.

To: one_less who wrote (9153)	12/17/2010 12:42:52 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

"Plug-in Hybrids: Renewable Energy Solution of the Month" How long to convert 240M vehicles? "Renewable Energy Solution of the Month – Wind" How long to build... etc Bloom box takes fuel, NG, and turns it into H. For every unit of energy you put in, you get out... 1/2 unit of energy. ( put that in, get back 1/4, get back 1/8, Antelope Freeway, 1/16 of a mile... Maybe we can all get one and make it up on volume. The laws of thermodynamics can't be repealed by an act of Congress. Zeroth: You must play the game. First: You can't win. Second: You can't break even, except on a very cold day. Third: It doesn't get that cold. siliconinvestor.com Then, how ya gonna build them without fighing China? They have the rare earths we need. Message 27031193 Speak of China, I just found I had stashed these.. Does China Face a ‘Peak Coal’ Threat? By JOHN COLLINS RUDOLF Message 27029003 UPDATE 1-China warns of power and energy shortages this winter Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:32am GMT NDRC: Some areas may see fuel supply tightness in winter Message 27031234 We're swimming in potential energy from the sun, but we are out of time to build the suncatchers. Now we have to play ketchup for 20 or 30 difficult years. Get used to this unemployment rate.