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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: average joe who wrote (31324)12/17/2010 1:17:16 PM
From: Land Shark  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 36917
 
The BS is on the skeptic's side. That article states that clearly. And it states that all the nations with diverging interests have their work cut out for them in forging an agreement. Every sane person realizes that an agreement on action on AGW is a necessary "evil". Of course, there are the childish idiots, who selfishly wish the problem would just simply go away or deny it's existence altogether.



To: average joe who wrote (31324)12/17/2010 1:23:10 PM
From: miraje  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 36917
 
There are now pledges to cut carbon emissions from all the major countries in the world, as part of the UN process.

That's interesting. But I guess that China must then not be classified as a "major country"..

commodityonline.com

...China produces more than three times as much coal as the United States, which is ranked second globally in terms of production. If the current pace of growth continues, China would produce four times as much coal than the United States by 2012.

Now the world’s biggest consumer of energy, the International Energy Agency predicts that China’s thirst for energy will rise by 75 percent until 2035, when it will account for more than one-third of global demand.

China currently relies on coal for about 70 percent of its power.

A report from HSBC’s alternative energy research unit in London released this week predicts that over the next 10 years, China would double its total electricity generating capacity to 1,800 gigawatts, from the current level of around 900 gigawatts. But most of that growth will still come from coal-fired power.

Richard Heinberg, a senior fellow at the Post-Carbon Institute in Santa Rosa, Calif., wrote in a recent report, “China’s reliance on coal cannot be significantly reduced as long as its demand for electrical power continues to grow at anything like current rates...

Anyone who thinks that China (and the rest of the "developing world") will sacrifice their economies on the green alter has been huffing on the bong, a bit too long..



To: average joe who wrote (31324)12/18/2010 1:09:28 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 36917
 
A man well educated in the basic sciences...
excerpt poli sci isn't, and neither is TV,film, radio. He had an hour a week of the real deal in third grade, tho, so he know all there is to know.

Born in Montreal, Quebec, Spector received a Bachelor of Arts with Honors in Political Science, from McGill University in 1970. Awarded a Woodrow Wilson Fellowship, he received a Master of Philosophy degree in Political Science from Columbia University in 1972 and a Ph.D. in 1977. In 1974, as a Newhouse Fellow, he received a Master of Science degree in Television, Film and Radio from Syracuse University. In 1974-75, Spector was a lecturer at St. Paul's College of the University of Ottawa.