To: TobagoJack who wrote (70021 ) 12/31/2010 4:34:49 PM From: oldirtybastard Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217680 Thanks Jay, just took a shot in the dark with you being that you are well travelled over there. I don't know if I am seriously curious yet, just trying to get a handle on it :) Just wondering why there is a pretty lively market in USA for $50-$100 lures and $500-$1500 rods made in Japan and even China and Korea, can Americans not make the same stuff for less yet? The Japanese companies (SevenSeas, Souls, Fisherman, Smith, Carpenter, Zenaq, Medusa Costom Works, many more) and Korean (Black Hole, Jigging Master)are doing very good business from what I can tell in the US with minimal US retailers and minimal marketing. For some reason, Shimano does not even sell its best stuff over here as they have rods that can match these, like their Blue Rose series. Perhaps many of these rods are made in the same factory, I have heard the name "Toray" thrown around and I know that Smith makes rods for others in both China and Japan. They claim lots of advances in "nano-carbon" are going into some of these rods and some of the lures look like works of art but I was curious if this is truly a technology/craft skill advantage they have right now or more of a prestige edge. The days of needing a Penn 50 Wide and 2 pound broomstick rod for any sort of fish are disappearing. I can tell you for sure just from fishing forums I follow that tuna fishermen in the US and giant trevally fishermen on your side of the pond gobble this stuff up as many stores are constantly sold out and anything listed on the used secondary market is quickly grabbed up as well. I have a few of the new rods, about 400 grams (8 foot rod) and able to take 22 kilos of drag at 45 degrees it is pretty impressive and can put a serious beating on a bluefin tuna. Some of the parabolic 5' jigging rods are neat too, wrapped at the base with kevlar sheeting and weighing almost nothing, also able to handle huge fish and weighing little more than a freshwater bass rod.