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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Brumar89 who wrote (31464)	1/2/2011 12:13:34 PM
From: Brumar89	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36917

Question For Monbiot/Romm : How Many People Have Been Killed By Carbon Taxes So Far This Winter? Posted on January 1, 2011 by stevengoddard According to Age UK (formerly Help the Aged and Age Concern), more than 30,000 older people die every year from preventable causes over the winter months. Michelle Mitchell, Age UK charity director, said, “The simple fact that the UK has one of the highest winter mortality rates in Europe – higher than even Sweden or Finland – makes it clear this is very much a home-grown problem. “Behind these shocking statistics lie deep-seated social issues, such as 3.5 million older people in fuel poverty – a figure that could rise even further under the combined pressure of soaring energy bills and plummeting temperatures.” dunfermlinepress.com Someday, we all have to meet our maker. Can you face him? This isn’t some bullshit from a climate model in 100 years. This is happening in the real world, right now. stevengoddard.wordpress.com ------------------- Monbiot : Heat Freezes Pipes! Posted on January 1, 2011 by stevengoddard Monbiot studying the Nixon White House playbook. These people can never admit that they were wrong. monbiot.com stevengoddard.wordpress.com

To: Brumar89 who wrote (31464)	1/2/2011 1:04:55 PM
From: Maurice Winn	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 36917

That is proof of Global Warming. Extremes of weather, including record breaking cold, are due to warming [in the latest manifestation of Al Gore's Second Chakra]. So, when it's cold, it's due to The Greenhouse Effect and when it's hot, or normal, it's also proof of The Greenhouse Effect. Everything that happens is proof. It's like Allah. Everything that happens is Allah's will. There's nothing that would show the Greenhouse Effect theories are wrong. If Earth goes back into the Ice Age, that's due to Global Warming. Even all the way to Snowball Earth would be due to Global Warming. The religious and superstitious nature of the Global Warmists is such that I can now expound a new scientific theory: Global Warming is a religion [that part of the theory is not true] and the adherents of Global Warming don't have serious allegiance to other religions. The stronger their belief and ardour for Global Warming Gaia religion, the less their belief in other supernatural deities. Unlike the Doomster theory about Global Warming, my theory is easily tested. Count the believers in Gaia and Global Warming and allocate their ardour on a 0 to 10 scale from outright denialism to full scale suicidal 10 "I must die to save the world". 9 would be other people must die to save the world. As with early multi-god pagan and animist superstitions, this one has many deities. There is recycling, "alternative" fuels, worshipful water, and the whole panoply of catechism. Mqurice