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To: neolib who wrote (303170)	1/10/2011 11:45:37 AM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

I've always felt the Swiss just won the cost/benefit calculation, every time it came up for the Nazis.

To: neolib who wrote (303170)	1/11/2011 1:52:34 AM
From: Skeeter Bug	Respond to of 306849

>>Did the Iron curtain fall because the citizens in the east got guns? Which revolution in Russia involved the masses using violence to overthrow their rulers? Lets see, gee, thats a tough one. What about the Chinese? Did they transform themselves into a country now starting to rival ours via guns? Oops, no, they still don't have them. Gee, how can this be? And finally, your above stupid comment. If you really believe the just so story about why Hitler didn't invade Switzerland, you should read up on the subject. Try this:<< nothing you said addressed my point and the ad hominem logical fallacy was necessary since you have nothing but name calling. let's take you points one by one - because i'm not a punk that simply lobs ad hominems - i actually discuss issues. >>Did the Iron curtain fall because the citizens in the east got guns?<< no, it fell because the tyrants who lorded over the people because they had little to fear from their peasant slave screwed everything up. if the society had been armed and free, perhaps there would be NO IRON CURTAIN TO FALL! >>Which revolution in Russia involved the masses using violence to overthrow their rulers? Lets see, gee, thats a tough one.<< russia had about 60 million people murdered by the state. that's too high a price to pay for an unarmed revolution. it is amazing how you dismiss the murder of 60 million people so easily. you must lack empathy. >>What about the Chinese? Did they transform themselves into a country now starting to rival ours via guns? Oops, no, they still don't have them. Gee, how can this be?<< the typical chinese is a slave to a despotic dictator. they have effective prison work camps. to equate the chinese slave labor, unlimited pollution model to america displays a complete lack of knowledge on your part. a very few people in china have gotten rich in spite of all of china's manufacturing capability - PRECISELY BECAUSE CHINA IS A TYRANNICAL DICTATORSHIP. NOT TO MENTION THE 50-80 MILLION MAO MURDERED IN ORDER TO GET TO THIS POINT. AGAIN, DO YOU LACK EMPATHY FOR THE MURDERED? >>And finally, your above stupid comment. If you really believe the just so story about why Hitler didn't invade Switzerland, you should read up on the subject. Try this:<< from your article... "Spiritual defense" in Switzerland The term "Geistige Landesverteidigung" [spiritual national defense] stands for the strong and widespread political will of the Swiss population to defend Switzerlands independence and democratic constitution against the Nazis. This common goal united entrepreneurs and socialists that had waged bitter conflicts during all of the 1920's. It was Switzerland's answer to Nazi propaganda warfare. now, how do you suppose the swiss population would "spiritually DEFEND" their country? guns in almost all households or nights singing kum-freaking-biyah? but you won't answer b/c you are not interested in discourse. apparently, you have nothing to bring but insults. your article helps establish EXACTLY MY POINT and you lack the intellectual capability to comprehend this.