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To: Katelew who wrote (153824)	1/10/2011 4:06:32 PM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542059

Should I be mad at Mish? Surely you don't think so. I surely do if Mish preaches hate. I have argued long and vehemently with Mish when he preached what I thought was hate towards union members when he still posted on SI. Sorry Katelew, I call them exactly how I see them which ever party the hate originates. The left has such an animus toward that whole family well ya, because their comments have very negative consequences for out nation. Hey if they don't like the response they are getting from the spot light - then GET OUT OF THE SPOTLIGHT. Katelew, 6 people were killed, 9 others wounded including a very respected politician who will likely never have her life back again. She was thinking of having a child - what are the chances those dreams have been crushed forever? She begged people to dial down the ugly discourse and still had the guts to appear in public to listen to her constituents. She was the exact opposite of Palin trying to find common ground - rather than looking for harsh differences she could exploit as Palin did. ....If you acknowledge that the rancorous ugly hate filled comments might contribute - then how can any of us condone it? I remain completely mystified by your defense of Palin.

To: Katelew who wrote (153824)	1/10/2011 6:21:35 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542059

"Maybe you give too much importance to Sarah Palin and her success." Maybe you give too little thought to Palin's role. See, for instance, the increase in death threats from her participation in the '08 election which I posted today. Also, ... "Consider what was happening in March of last year: Friday, March 19: Mike Vanderboegh of Pinson, Alabama, the former leader of the Alabama Constitutional Militia, puts out a call for modern "Sons of Liberty" to break the windows of Democratic Party offices nationwide in opposition to health care bill. Friday morning: Brick thrown through the Niagra Falls office of Rep. Louise Slaughter, who was also receiving threatening voice mail messages referring to a sniper. Friday night or Saturday morning: Brick thrown through the Democratic Party headquarters window in Wichita, Kansas with anti-Obama rhetoric written on it. Saturday, March 20: Brick thrown through the window of the Rochester, NY Democratic headquarters. Attached is a note with a Barry Goldwater quote: "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice." Sunday, March 21: A fist sized rock thrown through the window of the Hamilton County Democratic Party headquarters in Cincinnati, Ohio after the health care bill passes. Sunday, March 21: Front door of Gabby Giffords office smashed out, presumably by a brick or a pellet gun. Monday, March 22: Propane gas line severed at the house of Tom Periello's brother by a self-identified Tea Party activist who believed Periello lived there. Following the health care vote: Bart Stupak receives a fax with with a drawing of a noose and an anonymous voice mail saying: "You're dead. We know where you live. We'll get you." Betsy Markey receives telephone threats of violence. A man threatens to burn down John Boccieri's house. Here was John Boehner's response: I know many Americans are angry over this health-care bill, and that Washington Democrats just aren't listening. But, as I've said, violence and threats are unacceptable. That's not the American way. We need to take that anger and channel it into positive change. Call your congressman, go out and register people to vote, go volunteer on a political campaign, make your voice heard -- but let's do it the right way. Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell and Ken Cuccinelli also condemned the vandalism. That's the bare minimum the public should be able to expect from a political figure in the midst of a tense situation fraught with escalating violence. So, what does Sarah Palin do? On March 23, on the heels of all this violence, she chooses to launch her campaign at TakeBackthe20.com with a map of 20 members of Congress in the crosshairs -- including Giffords, Perriello and others who have just been targets. A 9:30 am on March 23, she tweets: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" huffingtonpost.com