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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (597616)1/11/2011 7:23:26 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578926
 
"When a political movement preaches that government itself is the enemy; when it argues that the president of the United States may not be a citizen; when it brands political adversaries as “un-American” and serving a “socialist agenda”; when it asserts that citizens may take up “Second Amendment remedies” against a “tyrannical” government, and so forth, we have gone far past the point of heated political debate.

I disagree. Some of that would be past the point of reasonable political debate. The point about "2nd amendment remedies", if it was made about specific actual politicians and proposed as a current course of action, rather than action against a hypothetical more abusive government, would qualify (the rest not so much). But even that unreasonable statement would still amount to heated political debate. Heated political debate is often not very reasonable.

But trying to tie a violent deranged criminal to your political opposition, without or before solid evidence of any real tie, is either similarly unreasoned, or highly cynical and manipulative. And even if there is such a tie (which could be to many possible different groups or philosophies), it doesn't make an argument to suppress or try to shame their ideas, or even heated expressions of those ideas, just incitements to, or condoning of violence.