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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (98600)1/18/2011 7:56:29 PM
From: chartseer1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224750
 
Are those your facts about Brilliant Barry's birth?
What are your facts about his adoption?

A concerned citizen

chartseer



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (98600)1/18/2011 9:47:37 PM
From: MJ1 Recommendation  Respond to of 224750
 
You do exaggerate, Kenneth.

"The entire country?????"



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (98600)1/18/2011 9:47:42 PM
From: Sedohr Nod7 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224750
 
What is really funny Kenny, is that we know more about some ancient greeks than we do a sitting president in an age of instant information.....yeah, some things are ridiculous for sure.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (98600)1/18/2011 10:46:04 PM
From: FJB10 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224750
 
Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

Suggests controversy could hurt president's re-election chances
Posted: January 18, 2011
8:05 pm Eastern

wnd.com
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Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Abercrombie told the Honolulu Star Advertiser he was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president's chances of re-election in 2012.

Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie's spokeswoman in Honolulu, ignored again yesterday another in a series of repeated requests made by WND for an interview with the governor.
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Toward the end of the interview, the newspaper asked Abercrombie: "You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?"

In his response, Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have "political implications" for the next presidential election "that we simply cannot have."

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Suggesting he was still intent on producing more birth records on Obama from the Hawaii Department of Health vital records vault, Abercrombie told the newspaper there was a recording of the Obama birth in the state archives that he wants to make public.

Abercrombie did not report to the newspaper that he or the Hawaii Department of Health had found Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. The governor only suggested his investigations to date had identified an unspecified listing or notation of Obama's birth that someone had made in the state archives.

"It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down," Abercrombie said.

For seemingly the first time, Abercrombie frankly acknowledge that presidential politics motivated his search for Obama birth records, implying that failure to resolve the questions that remain unanswered about the president's birth and early life may damage his chance for re-election.

"If there is a political agenda (regarding Obama's birth certificate), then there is nothing I can do about that, nor can the president," he said.

So far, the only birth document available on Obama is a Hawaii Certification of Live Birth that first appeared on the Internet during the 2008 presidential campaign. It was posted by two purportedly independent websites that have displayed a strong partisan bias for Obama – Snopes.com released the COLB in June 2008, and FactCheck.org published photographs of the document in August 2008.

WND previously reported the Hawaii Department of Health has refused to authenticate the COLB posted on the Internet by Snopes.com and FactCheck.org.

WND has reported that in 1961, Obama's grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, could have made an in-person report of a Hawaii birth even if the infant Barack Obama Jr. had been foreign-born.

Similarly, the newspaper announcements of Obama's birth do not prove he was born in Hawaii, since they could have been triggered by the grandparents registering the birth as Hawaiian, even if the baby was born elsewhere.

Moreover, WND has documented that the address reported in the newspaper birth announcements was the home of the grandparents.

WND also has reported that Barack Obama Sr. maintained his own separate apartment in Honolulu, even after he was supposedly married to Ann Dunham, Barack Obama's mother, and that Dunham left Hawaii within three weeks of the baby's birth to attend the University of Washington in Seattle.

Dunham did not return to Hawaii until after Barack Obama Sr. left Hawaii in June 1962 to attend graduate school at Harvard University in Cambridge, Mass.

Conceivably, the yet undisclosed birth record in the state archives that Abercrombie has discovered may have come from the grandparents registering Obama's birth, an event that would have triggered both the newspaper birth announcements and availability of a Certification of Live Birth, even if no long-form birth certificate existed.

WND has also reported that Tim Adams, a former senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in 2008, has maintained that there is no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate on file with the Hawaii Department of Health and that neither Honolulu hospital – Queens Medical Center or Kapiolani Medical Center – has any record that Obama was born there.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (98600)1/19/2011 8:11:25 AM
From: lorne4 Recommendations  Respond to of 224750
 
:-)
..."He continued: "Liberals should have their speech controlled and not be allowed to buy guns. I mean if we want to get serious about this, if we want to face this head on, we're gonna have to openly admit liberals should not be allowed to buy guns, nor should they be allowed to use computer keyboards or typewriters, word processors or e-mails, and they should have their speech controlled.

"If we did those three or four things, I can't tell you what a sane, calm, civil, fun-loving society we would have. Take guns out of the possession, out of the hands of liberals. Take their typewriters and their keyboards away from 'em. Don't let 'em anywhere near a gun and control their speech, and you would wipe out 90 percent of the crime, 85 to 95 percent of the hate and 100 percent of the lies from society.
"....

Rush Limbaugh: Here's way to stop 100% of lies in society
Radio host suggests taking certain cherished items away from liberals
January 18, 2011
By Joe Kovacs
© 2011 WorldNetDaily
wnd.com

PALM BEACH, Fla. – In the aftermath of the Tucson massacre that left six people dead and 14 injured including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, radio host Rush Limbaugh proffered his own solution to help make the nation a safer, more civil place: prevent "liberals" from owning guns and sending e-mails.

"I've got the solution to most crime in America," Limbaugh said today on his top-rated program. "From this day forward, somebody propose it. Liberals should not be allowed to buy guns. Just that simple."

But Limbaugh, in his usual irreverent style, didn't stop there.

He continued: "Liberals should have their speech controlled and not be allowed to buy guns. I mean if we want to get serious about this, if we want to face this head on, we're gonna have to openly admit liberals should not be allowed to buy guns, nor should they be allowed to use computer keyboards or typewriters, word processors or e-mails, and they should have their speech controlled.

"If we did those three or four things, I can't tell you what a sane, calm, civil, fun-loving society we would have. Take guns out of the possession, out of the hands of liberals. Take their typewriters and their keyboards away from 'em. Don't let 'em anywhere near a gun and control their speech, and you would wipe out 90 percent of the crime, 85 to 95 percent of the hate and 100 percent of the lies from society."

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Limbaugh and others on the political right have been personally attacked by some on the left as being somehow complicit in the rampage of alleged shooter Jared Loughner through use of incendiary rhetoric.

But Limbaugh said if a political mind-set were to blame, a strong case could be made for blaming the left:

What would you do if you're told this every day by people you vote for, by people you support, if the movies you go see tell you that your government was behind the downing of the [World] Trade Center and the Pentagon on 9/11 as the movie "Zeitgeist" did, the documentary? If you were told by Michael Moore that all of this was done on purpose, if you're told that the rich have taken what's rightfully yours, if you're bombarded with this every day as part of a political message, what would you be capable of doing? What might it drive you to do?
We could just as easily say that the left is responsible for Tucson and events like Tucson because it is the left which routinely, regularly, continually agitates, abuses, punishes, fines, name-calls. The left creates this environment in which the individual is smothered, treated as worthless and degraded. The left is constantly telling us how horrible we are, how horrible our country is. The left's leader runs around the world apologizing for this country, how unfair and unjust our economic system is, how our major corporations are out to kill you, to screw you, to rip you off. They create this environment of pessimism, of self-hate and loathing, desperation. They turn citizen against citizen, blacks against whites, men against women, Hispanics against whoever, you name it. People are constantly at war with each other.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (98600)1/19/2011 8:59:44 AM
From: chartseer2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224750
 
Don't fret about not have found a birth certificate. There is still the newspaper birth announcement. It is right there in black and white.
I understand the 2012 opponent is going to not say a word about Brilliant Barry's birth. She will just hang her birth certificate from any podium she is speaking from just like it was a presidential seal.

a concerned citizen

chartseer