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To: Judy who wrote (14112)	11/12/1997 8:05:00 PM
From: Elllk	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

Judy Re <<Interesting that LU is a she and TXN is a he in your book. How do you differentiate gender in stocks>> Interesting observation. Sounds like the criteria is SOUND, which is not to say it is a sound criteria although it would, in fact, be a sound criteria, one way if not another. How does that answer sound?? Larry

To: Judy who wrote (14112)	11/12/1997 8:23:00 PM
From: MonsieurGonzo	Respond to of 50167

Judy, * OFF TOPIC * I do a lot of mathematical programming to determine what resources are "strategic", and how much to pay to acquire market share. I started as one of those over-educated baby-boomers who wound up in investment banking after the Apollo program ended. Then "retired" from that and moved to San Francisco around 1979 to join the microcomputer party. I stuffed a bunch of old, mainframe LP stuff that I used to use to optimize portfolios into an 8-bit, Z80 micro, and called it an "alloy synthesizer" ( makes me laff now just recalling it :-) Rather than recycling something by using it again, or re-producing the same thing again, I wanted to explore re-combinant recycling, where you mix stuff together and make something entirely new. Anyway, 20 years later, I'm back where I started, wearing a suit and working for a big corporation. I miss my red motorcycle and the lazy days in SFO. > Interesting that LU is a she and TXN is a he in your book. > How do you differentiate gender in stocks? {ahem} well, ze French av zair waze, dahling (^_^) -Steve

To: Judy who wrote (14112)	11/12/1997 11:42:00 PM
From: Michael Rich	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

Good evening, Judy. Let's have some more numbers to play with. Look at all these zeroes on W%R. Also, INDU and NDX are below 200ema now but OEX/SPX/COMPX are still OK. How does one define a bear market? All indices float below 200ema for a prolonged period of time? ticker date close 5ema 13ema 20ema 50ema 200ema 9BB 20BB 10W%R @INDU 11/12 7401.32 7524.7 7597.9 7654.2 7769.1 7437.0 7739.2/7387.1 8145.3/7163.0 6.3 @OEX.X 11/12 864.54 877.4 885.4 890.8 898.8 848.2 900.5/ 863.1 939.2/ 842.3 5.0 @SPX.X 11/12 905.96 920.1 927.6 932.0 935.8 876.0 944.8/ 904.0 977.5/ 886.5 5.8 @COMPX 11/12 1541.72 1580.7 1606.7 1622.0 1634.7 1499.9 1643.8/1546.9 1730.0/1514.0 0.0 @NDX.X 11/12 980.14 1008.0 1029.0 1042.9 1068.1 992.1 1056.9/ 982.2 1133.9/ 951.8 0.0 @NWX.X 11/12 275.86 291.1 304.3 311.8 323.8 307.9 321.9/ 275.3 352.6/ 271.0 0.0 @SOX.X 11/12 278.04 295.0 309.0 319.1 342.3 322.3 327.9/ 277.4 385.0/ 253.2 0.0 @DRG.X 11/12 480.67 489.7 493.1 493.3 488.5 452.0 503.5/ 480.6 506.5/ 480.1 0.0 @BTK.X 11/12 160.06 166.1 170.8 172.7 170.7 155.6 178.7/ 159.2 186.7/ 158.8 0.0 @TYX.X 11/12 61.25 61.5 62.0 62.3 63.4 65.8 62.8/ 60.7 64.2/ 60.5 0.0 ADBE 11/12 45.25 46.8 47.7 48.0 47.3 43.1 49.1/ 45.5 50.4/ 45.6 0.0 ADPT 11/12 46.12 48.0 48.5 48.6 48.3 42.7 52.0/ 44.9 52.9/ 44.4 0.0 ALTR 11/12 42.06 44.5 45.5 46.4 49.5 48.8 48.7/ 41.5 54.7/ 38.0 11.9 AMAT 11/12 28.88 32.0 34.6 36.5 40.9 36.7 38.3/ 28.6 50.2/ 22.8 0.0 AMD 11/12 19.94 21.4 23.1 24.3 28.3 32.3 25.2/ 19.3 31.4/ 17.2 0.0 AMGN 11/12 49.50 51.0 50.5 50.0 50.0 54.4 55.1/ 46.6 54.1/ 45.9 35.9 APM 11/12 16.25 18.8 21.9 23.6 27.5 29.4 26.2/ 14.9 32.6/ 14.7 0.0 ASND 11/12 23.69 23.9 26.1 27.7 32.6 43.7 30.0/ 20.0 35.6/ 19.7 23.9 ASYT 11/12 28.62 30.8 31.7 32.6 34.1 26.0 35.5/ 27.2 42.6/ 22.6 11.9 ATML 11/12 22.69 24.3 26.2 27.6 30.9 31.6 28.7/ 22.0 36.0/ 19.3 0.0 BA 11/12 46.44 46.4 47.2 48.2 50.8 52.1 48.6/ 44.9 54.8/ 41.6 30.6 BAY 11/12 26.75 29.8 31.7 32.7 34.1 29.7 35.0/ 26.9 39.8/ 25.6 0.0 CA 11/12 68.75 72.2 74.1 74.4 72.8 63.6 78.5/ 68.4 80.7/ 68.2 0.0 CAT 11/12 44.75 48.5 51.3 52.6 54.7 50.8 55.5/ 44.7 59.7/ 45.6 0.0 CCI 11/12 116.38 123.5 127.8 129.8 132.0 123.1 134.9/ 117.3 143.2/ 116.4 0.0 CDG 11/12 70.25 74.5 74.1 72.9 67.0 47.9 83.0/ 66.3 82.1/ 63.7 7.2 CIEN 11/12 54.12 56.7 57.1 56.7 54.6 44.4 61.2/ 52.9 63.1/ 50.4 14.8 COMS 11/12 30.88 35.6 39.9 42.2 46.4 48.6 45.8/ 30.4 53.4/ 30.9 0.0 CPQ 11/12 58.00 61.5 64.4 66.0 67.1 52.8 68.4/ 57.8 76.1/ 55.9 0.0 CS 11/12 26.94 27.8 28.7 29.3 30.8 32.5 29.8/ 26.8 33.2/ 25.4 0.0 CSCO 11/12 76.50 80.3 81.3 81.1 79.2 71.0 86.2/ 76.2 87.1/ 75.0 0.0 CTEC 11/12 13.38 13.6 13.6 13.4 11.9 8.3 13.9/ 13.3 16.1/ 10.7 0.0 CYMI 11/12 17.88 20.1 22.5 24.0 28.1 27.1 26.1/ 16.8 30.9/ 17.1 0.0 DD 11/12 59.00 59.0 58.5 58.6 59.9 57.9 60.7/ 56.6 63.0/ 54.3 64.7 DELL 11/12 72.00 76.3 81.4 84.4 87.5 67.6 88.7/ 69.3 100.8/ 68.0 0.0 DO 11/12 60.19 61.9 62.5 62.1 58.8 45.9 66.7/ 58.2 67.3/ 56.9 0.0 EGLS 11/12 19.00 19.2 19.6 20.7 24.3 24.4 20.6/ 17.9 29.5/ 11.8 64.3 EMC 11/12 57.00 56.9 57.4 57.8 57.0 46.9 59.7/ 54.5 62.8/ 52.7 53.9 GE 11/12 65.75 66.9 67.1 67.3 67.6 62.4 69.6/ 64.5 71.7/ 62.9 42.6 GLX 11/12 41.19 42.2 42.4 42.6 42.6 39.7 44.2/ 40.6 45.2/ 39.9 0.0 HAL 11/12 56.31 58.1 58.8 58.4 55.2 44.8 62.3/ 55.1 64.3/ 52.5 0.0 HWP 11/12 58.75 60.5 62.1 63.1 64.7 60.3 64.8/ 58.1 69.4/ 56.8 0.0 IBM 11/12 96.62 98.4 99.3 99.7 100.5 91.2 102.6/ 95.3 107.3/ 92.2 11.7 IMNX 11/12 66.50 67.7 68.9 69.1 64.3 44.4 73.5/ 63.3 78.0/ 60.2 29.2 INTC 11/12 74.94 75.6 77.5 79.6 84.7 79.8 81.5/ 71.4 93.3/ 65.8 28.0 IO 11/12 26.19 27.5 28.2 28.5 27.9 24.0 30.0/ 25.9 30.8/ 26.2 0.0 IOM 11/12 28.62 28.4 28.0 27.6 26.5 22.7 30.2/ 26.2 30.9/ 24.3 88.2 IPEC 11/12 20.00 21.6 23.5 25.0 27.9 25.4 26.2/ 18.9 35.4/ 14.5 0.0 IP 11/12 46.81 47.2 48.3 49.5 51.9 49.9 51.4/ 43.9 57.9/ 41.2 56.9 KLAC 11/12 36.62 42.6 47.1 50.3 57.5 53.4 53.5/ 36.6 70.1/ 30.4 0.0 KLIC 11/12 26.88 28.9 29.7 31.1 36.2 34.2 33.5/ 25.0 44.5/ 17.7 30.9 LOR 11/12 20.38 20.7 21.1 21.2 20.5 18.7 21.7/ 20.2 22.3/ 20.0 0.0 LRCX 11/12 33.06 35.1 36.8 38.2 43.1 42.9 39.4/ 32.7 47.9/ 28.4 0.0 LSI 11/12 21.75 22.6 23.2 24.0 26.9 31.3 24.3/ 21.5 31.0/ 16.9 19.2 LU 11/12 77.06 80.4 82.0 82.6 82.6 71.7 85.7/ 77.2 88.6/ 76.5 0.0 MOT 11/12 61.31 62.1 63.2 64.3 67.9 68.0 64.5/ 60.6 73.0/ 55.6 48.1 MSFT 11/12 129.19 130.6 131.7 132.4 133.6 120.7 134.2/ 128.3 137.7/ 127.1 10.0 NE 11/12 33.00 34.7 35.2 35.1 33.2 26.2 37.7/ 32.5 38.1/ 32.1 0.0 NKE 11/12 46.75 47.5 48.1 48.7 51.1 55.5 49.1/ 46.6 53.3/ 44.1 0.0 NN 11/12 42.62 44.9 48.7 51.1 53.7 45.8 55.7/ 38.2 63.6/ 38.6 0.0 NVLS 11/12 38.25 41.9 45.4 47.8 51.9 46.2 49.9/ 37.8 62.0/ 33.5 0.0 NXTL 11/12 23.88 25.3 26.2 26.7 26.7 22.0 27.7/ 24.1 29.4/ 24.0 0.0 ORCL 11/12 32.50 34.2 34.8 35.0 35.8 33.6 36.8/ 32.4 38.2/ 31.8 0.0 ORFR 11/12 18.00 18.5 19.4 20.0 20.7 18.7 20.8/ 17.1 23.5/ 16.5 0.0 PAIR 11/12 21.75 25.1 26.6 27.0 26.8 25.7 30.2/ 22.1 30.7/ 23.2 0.0 PFE 11/12 67.12 69.4 70.1 69.5 65.9 56.2 73.4/ 66.7 77.2/ 61.7 0.0 QNTM 11/12 25.75 28.7 31.5 32.9 34.7 33.3 36.1/ 24.6 40.4/ 25.4 0.0 RIG 11/12 56.62 57.8 56.8 56.0 52.4 41.7 61.1/ 53.5 61.5/ 50.5 56.4 RMBS 11/12 40.06 44.7 48.5 50.5 55.0 53.5 54.1/ 39.9 59.9/ 41.1 0.0 SEG 11/12 24.25 25.3 27.2 28.7 32.7 37.7 29.7/ 22.8 38.0/ 19.4 1.4 SUNW 11/12 31.75 34.0 35.7 37.1 40.9 38.8 38.1/ 31.7 47.2/ 27.0 0.0 SYBS 11/12 15.19 15.7 16.5 17.1 18.0 17.5 17.7/ 14.4 21.1/ 13.2 0.0 SYMC 11/12 21.88 22.3 22.2 22.1 22.3 20.0 23.5/ 21.0 24.3/ 19.9 0.0 TLAB 11/12 49.12 51.2 52.7 53.2 54.6 50.7 56.5/ 48.0 59.0/ 47.5 0.0 TRV 11/12 68.94 71.7 72.2 72.2 71.1 63.9 75.6/ 68.5 77.2/ 67.2 0.0 TXN 11/12 93.75 105.0 110.9 114.2 119.3 103.1 121.6/ 95.5 137.9/ 90.6 0.0 WDC 11/12 19.81 23.0 27.3 29.9 35.6 35.1 33.8/ 17.2 42.1/ 17.6 0.0 WFR 11/12 17.81 18.6 19.6 20.6 24.0 27.8 20.7/ 17.5 27.6/ 13.5 0.0 WLA 11/12 133.12 136.2 138.9 139.6 137.9 118.9 143.6/ 132.3 149.1/ 130.0 0.0