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To: T L Comiskey who wrote (84800)	1/21/2011 11:13:22 AM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 89467

".. last 150 years have been among the coolest in the past 10,000 years of the Earth's history." ..... MEREDITH GRIFFITHS: Geologist Bob Carter from James Cook University says Mr Jerraud has no evidence for that. BOB CARTER: Lots of scientists have been looking for that evidence but to date there is nothing in the scientific literature which says we have more climatic emergency events at the moment than in the past or that these are more frequent or more dangerous. There is no scientific evidence for that. MEREDITH GRIFFITHS: Professor Carter says it's not surprising that last year was one of the warmest, but says that doesn't mean greenhouse gases are the blame. BOB CARTER: The question is not whether it causes warming, the question is how much warming? Since 1998 we've had three warm years - 1998, 2005 and 2010 - and each of those years is associated with an El Nino event which causes or is related to the warming. Okay, but there's no trend, 2010 is not significantly warmer in any way than 1998. So we have a warm period over a period of 12 years. Over those same 12 years we have a five per cent increase in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. The carbon dioxide is supposed to cause more warming. Well this data that we've just discussed tells you that human carbon dioxide emissions are not causing dangerous global warming, indeed they're not causing any warming at all at the moment. MEREDITH GRIFFITHS: Professor Carter says the last 150 years have been among the coolest in the past 10,000 years of the Earth's history. abc.net.au

To: T L Comiskey who wrote (84800)	1/21/2011 11:14:08 AM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 89467

Greenpeace Founder Questions Man-Made Global Warming Patrick Moore, co-founder of the environmental organization Greenpeace, isn’t too hot about global warming. Appearing on Fox Business Network with Stuart Varney on Thursday, he said bal warming is a “natural phenomenon,” there’s no proof of man-made global warming, and suggested that “alarmism” is driving politicians to create bad environmental policies. He also said he’s not the only environmentalist that believes like him: Moore is the author of the book, “Confessions of a Greenpeace Dropout: The Making of a Sensible Environmentalist,” in which he exposes the green movement and explains why he left the organization. While talking with Varney, he explained that departure was in part due to the group’s “extremist positions” and it being hijacked by political and social causes as well as the left: theblaze.com

To: T L Comiskey who wrote (84800)	1/21/2011 11:16:37 AM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 89467

Plants Moving The Wrong Direction Since The 1930s Posted on January 21, 2011 by stevengoddard Dobrowski expected he’d see the same trend when he looked into historical movements of plants in a vast area of northern California. He dug through a remarkable record of the region’s vegetation, collected back in the 1930s thanks to a federal project started during the Great Depression. He and his colleagues from the University of Idaho and the University of California, Davis then compared that with modern vegetation surveys. “What we found was counter to our expectations,” he says. “We found that in fact the preponderance of plants in our study area had actually moved downhill 80 meters, or roughly 240 feet.” The author doesn’t accept the obvious explanation that the 1930s were warmer, but he has collected some interesting data. npr.org Can Hansen adjust the plants back uphill? stevengoddard.wordpress.com