To: Lahcim Leinad who wrote (842 ) 1/22/2011 4:43:13 PM From: sylvester80 Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3170 In addition, had you read more carefully the Ed Burnette article, a professional developer, he looked through to see if he could find ANY of these files in the current builds of Android. They didn't exist. Even if let's say the judge was a complete idiot, the fact is that the current version of Android does not even have a HINT of these files, as they were not ever needed or were ever part of Android OS. So good luck with them getting any type of royalties on Android OS when no infringing code exists in it.... I truly LMAO yesterday about all the different Apple media getting into the action only to be slapped back like the clueless idiots that they are. In any case I'm not a Google or Oracle lawyer so I'll let them fight it out and let the chips fall where they may. Anyone who thinks that they know how this case will turn out is freaking clueless. That is why yesterday's Apple media euphoria had me ROTFL... I'm sure both of their lawyer groups are paid big bucks to make sure that this case drags out as long as possible... after all, they charge by the hour... LOL Burnette downloaded the same files Mueller had downloaded and came to the following conclusion: these files don’t matter. First he notes that one set of files that were in question went by the following filenames: PolicyNodeImpl.java, AclEntryImpl.java, AclImpl.java, GroupImpl.java, OwnerImpl.java, PermissionImpl.java, and PrincipalImpl.java. Each of these files, Burnette notes, are in the unit test area which is not shipped with the end product because it is indeed a unit test. A unit test is a tool used internally to make sure of the quality of software before it’s shipped. Next Burnette mentions a file named MMAPI.zip, a file found in a native code audio drivers directory for a particular type of chip set and one that he says appears to have been uploaded by mistake, and that it should have simply been deleted. Burnette in this case double checked the make files to be sure this file is not shipped with Android either – it’s not. Finally, the first seven files with an Apache license attached to the top of each. Burnette notes that these files are published by Sun on their website for download by developers to help them debug and test their code. The odd thing about these codes is the Apache codes at the top which do not match with the original Sun codes. Burnette tells us that when the Android or Harmony developer used these files they must have, for some reason or another, decompiled and rebuilt them instead of simply using original files from Sun. After this happened, an Apache license (the one found by Mueller) must have been attached by an automated script (and attached incorrectly, mind you.) Burnette notes for these files that all of this doesn’t even really matter since, again, these files aren’t shipped with Android. Finally, Burnette discovers that Google had already taken care of these files, a commit comment written by developer Dan Bornstein reading: “Remove pointless tests.” PolicyNodeImpl.java being deleted 30 Oct 2010, the rest being deleted 14 Jan 2011.