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To: Katelew who wrote (405988)	1/22/2011 3:23:14 PM
From: longnshort	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 794308

"A communist approach would have been single-payer, wouldn't it?" He knows his plan will lead to single payer as insurance companies drop out

To: Katelew who wrote (405988)	1/22/2011 3:24:11 PM
From: J.B.C.	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 794308

I don't see those communist tendencies coming out in O's policies to date. He took over the auto companies. He took a market approach to healthcare. Mandating that everyone buy health APPROVED health insurance, is not free market approach. Forcing insurance companies to insure children through there parents policy until they're 26 years old is not free market appraoch. Forcing insurance companies to insure preexisting conditions is not free market approach. The insurance companies will realize that there is no benefit for them to be in the health insurance business and will get out. By default the single payer system is in the bill because there will be no other option.

To: Katelew who wrote (405988)	1/22/2011 3:30:13 PM
From: KLP	2 Recommendations Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 794308

Oh, Katelew...I have to disagree..Obama did not take a market approach to health care. He took a sledgehammer and has tried to bust up what we had, and is trying by mandate and regulation to re-engineer what has been a world-class medical system. The problem all of us had before Obama care, is the price was becoming much too heavy a burden. Both insurance, and the actual cost of hospital bills, supplies, drugs, etc. I've never thought the Docs I have had over the years, have overcharged. Give you a "for instance"....yesterday, my husband had to go to get a new 'face mask' for his CPap machine. This consists of a plastic unit (small) for the nose/mouth area, and some straps. Cost: $265+ !!! His insurance will cover it.....BUT he is an engineer by training, has worked for large companies, and has has his own business for the last 17 years. He was stunned, and said that Obama is attacking the costs at the point of delivery to the customer. He SHOULD BE questioning the cost from the start of the process, and have a good understanding on WHAT and WHY the cost for such an appliance should be anything like that.......... He also made the comment that if Aviation business ever had the guts to charge that much money for such a small, and mass produced item, that the CEO's would all be in jail because the Government would put them there. Some of our Government employees at Senior levels should be in jail as well for just NOT paying attention to the problem at the source. Most often these days, the Government IS the source of the problem. He took a market approach to healthcare.

To: Katelew who wrote (405988)	1/22/2011 3:30:34 PM
From: Joe Btfsplk	3 Recommendations Respond to of 794308

He took a market approach to healthcare WHAT!!! Our definitions of the "market" couldn't differ more. By me, this contemptible little man has widely expanded on prior interferences with market forces - with predictable results. I find it revealing that you had no acquaintance with the O's Marxist inclinations. I've come to think that too many bright people have long relied on poor information sources.

To: Katelew who wrote (405988)	1/22/2011 3:32:06 PM
From: DMaA	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 794308

He is on record as being in favor of single payer. He's just good enough politician to know he can't get it without some subterfuge. youtube.com

To: Katelew who wrote (405988)	1/22/2011 5:28:17 PM
From: briskit	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 794308

Would you say he's taken a market approach to the oil and gas industry? The handling of the gulf oil spill and continued drilling has been nothing short of totalitarian. They threatened news agencies with fines and imprisonment if they came too close to vessels, etc. What happened to coverage? There has been very little evidence of damages that corroborated Obama politics and claims, and we have no stories talking about any of that terrible handling and policy. It makes me very sad when the thinking public, which I imagine you are part of, cannot recognize what is happening with this administration. He will socialize medicine, and wants a single-payer system as everyone knows. If the media successfully sells the story that now he's moved to the center and everything is all good, I will indeed be disappointed. It would be like being in an abusive relationship, and one day the partner says, O, I've changed. Let's just forget all that previous bad bahavior.

To: Katelew who wrote (405988)	1/22/2011 5:29:16 PM
From: briskit	Respond to of 794308

Would you say he's taken a market approach to the oil and gas industry? The handling of the gulf oil spill and continued drilling has been nothing short of totalitarian. They threatened news agencies with fines and imprisonment if they came too close to vessels, etc. What happened to coverage? There has been very little evidence of damages that corroborated Obama politics and claims, and we have no stories talking about any of that terrible handling and policy. It makes me very sad when the thinking public, which I imagine you are part of, cannot recognize what is happening with this administration. He will socialize medicine, and wants a single-payer system as everyone knows. If the media successfully sells the story that now he's moved to the center and everything is all good, I will indeed be disappointed. It would be like being in an abusive relationship, and one day the partner says, O, I've changed. Let's just forget all that previous bad bahavior.

To: Katelew who wrote (405988)	1/22/2011 7:01:21 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	7 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 794308

The best researched book on Obama's past and socialist philosophy, by all accounts (I have only heard the author talk about the book, I haven't read it) is Stanley Kurtz's book Radical in Chief: In his controversial new book, veteran journalist Stanley Kurtz culls together two years of investigations from archives and never-before-tapped sources to present an exhaustively-researched exposé of President Obama’s biggest secret—the socialist convictions and tactical ruthlessness he has long swept under the rug. A personable figure, a thoughtful politician, and an inspiring orator, Obama has hidden his core political beliefs from the American people—sometimes by directly misrepresenting his past and sometimes by omitting or parceling out damaging information to disguise its real importance. The president presents himself as a post-ideological pragmatist, yet his current policies grow directly from the nexus of socialist associates and theories that has shaped him throughout his adult life. Kurtz makes an in-depth exploration of the president’s connections to radical groups such as ACORN, UNO of Chicago, the Midwest Academy, and the Socialist Scholars Conferences. He explains what modern “stealth” socialism is, how it has changed, and how it continues to influence the Democratic Party. He sheds light on what the New York Times called a “lost chapter” of the president’s life—his years at Columbia—and proves that Obama’s youthful infatuation with socialism was not just a phase. Those ideas have shaped his political views and set the groundwork for the long-term strategy of his administration. It could be argued that Obama’s past no longer matters, but, in a sense, it matters more than the present. Obama has adopted the gradualist socialist strategy of his mentors, seeking to combine comprehensive government regulation of private businesses with a steadily enlarging public sector. Eventually, in his hands, capitalist America could resemble a socialist-inspired Scandinavian welfare state. The gap between inner conviction and public relations in Obama’s case is vastly wider than for most American politicians. If Americans understood in 2008 the facts Kurtz reveals in this shocking political biography, Obama would not be president today. The fears of his harshest critics are justified: our Commander-in- Chief is a Radical-in-Chief.