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To: tejek who wrote (598936)	1/26/2011 1:04:02 AM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573544

Who get their guns from the US And from many other places, including the Mexican army. If there where zero guns produced or held in the US (but no other country changed) they would have little problem arming themselves. There are lots of guns in the world, and you have international smuggling cartels in Mexico, not just low level unconnected street thugs. the US is the most violent First World nation. If you define it by murder rates for any medium or large country (and you ignore the higher suicide rates in other countries and higher non-murder violent crime rates in some of them). That's a reasonable way to define it, but not the only one. But since its reasonable I'll go with it for now. We have a higher murder rate. We also have a higher non-gun murder rate, despite the easier availability of guns than in many other first world countries, which would tend to drive down the non-gun murder rate. Americans, for some reason, are just more likely to kill each other. Why? I'm not really sure, but the higher non-gun murder rate tells us its not because of guns. If you remove the US from the measurements there is no real correlation between gun control levels and murder rates. If more guns meant more murder it wouldn't just be a US thing. And a number of categories of violent crimes got worse in 1st world countries after gun control was tightened, which makes sense since ordinary people became easier victims, but which doesn't support your argument. If you look at jurisdictions within the US, those with more guns have a tendency to lower murder rates not higher. Again the argument for gun control breaks down.